Well then it is done, the new alpine props from Valve are perfect for the map.
The change is still not complete, the skybox needs a lot more detail now because frankly, the Alpine skybox is quite siple and works for a small map such as Lumberyard, but is a little repetitive for a large one.
But overhall I belive that the Alpine look fits the map much better. Also make sure to check the soundscapes I've created. Nothing fancy but once I get the planes to fly around it will add so much atmosphere!
I belive this is the final Alpha version, all that is left now is minor tweaking to gameplay and adding details until I'm happy with it.
And now a compile log info:
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physics terrain [variable] 66596/1048576 ( 6.4%)And the screenshots:
I'm uploading the map and it should be availabe soon 
Thanks all.
ruler of the sky 
i really like the cave
Yeah, the alpine themed content works perfectly. Nice work.
looks great, alpine stuff works pretty well.
You may have to disable shadows on some of those trees in the playable area tho, looks a bit off.
Big update!
This version shown here is a Beta release candidate. That's right, I'll finally move from Alpha and into Beta. What does that mean? I'll soon put the map out on FPSB and advertise it out in as many forums as I can. I have been avoiding exposure of the map so far, and when I reach beta I'll want as much exposure as I can get.
But before that I'm putting this Beta release candidate for gameday so we can hammer down any showstoppers or major bugs. Also this will give me time to properly write a readme thanking and acknowlaging (sp?) everyone who's helped me so far. I also added the TF2Maps.net posters 
First off, the overhall changes:
SIGNS! - Yes, now you can't make a turn and not have a sign directing you somewhere. Signs are all over the place and especially the area leding from the spawnrooms to the intel has been made to ensure that players know where their intel is from the very first moment they arrive in.
Lightning - Finally I have reached the perfect sun settings for my map. W00t!
Ok, enough talk, lets comment on some screenies, one area at a time, on the next post:
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First is this overhead view of the map. One thing you can't see here is the cave because it is under the mountain. But then, I just wanted to see how this was done and I'll make a decent overhead view for beta release.
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Spawnrooms
I had expanded the spawnrooms from the last iteration. I wanted to have a little extra space in the spawnrooms so I can add a map of the map and some other scenery as well as a large wall for forum/community banners and posters that is somehow hidden, but present.
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The spawnrooms are basically the same. I added a small area before the ressupply rooms where you can see the big boss office with a large glass window so he can watch his workers punch their cards and come to work. I have changed the intelligence room quite a bit (you'll see) and I didn't want to throw away the nice spyboss table I had done there, so I moved it here.
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Hangars (inside)
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Not much changed here in terms of general layout, but I tweaked the lights to give more contrast to the props in the middle of the room, making more clear the division in the passable area that they represent. The signs by the side of the stairs also help to keep the playerflow© fluent.
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Hagars (ceiling)
This area presented problems due to the HDR settings. I found out that for some reason I left an alpha channel on the ceiling texture, and the engine was interpreting it as a specular mask thus making the ceiling highly specular. This problem has been solved and the ceiling became dramatically more defined on both bases. You can alos notice the new details around the red base, that was kind of barren on every one of the past iterations.
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I also enlarged the windows in front of the hangar "tower" so attacking players have an easier time getting in the intel room.
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Inner bases (upper level)
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This area suffered a major reconstruction with the addition of more ledges and platforms. The raised areas give an attacking scout many ways of accessing the hangar, be it from the floor level, from the second level platforms or on top of the roof. The platform leading around the base should also be a good incertion point for a cloaked spy and possibly a good point for a pyro to drop on top of attackers.
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Inner bases (ground level)
This large open area is crampled from both sides by the hangar ceiling and the ofice buildings, but most classes must walk trough it.
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I added some props for cover and strategical movement, such as a few ramps and places that you can crouch and possibly hide from an unsuspecting player. I belive that in many situations this area will be the place for a fallen flag since anyone carrying the flag will have to go past it on the floor level (a scout can make a double jump from the hangar ledge to the platform on the office building, but it's a tricky jump). Since I set the return time of the flag for 2 minutes on my map I belive this will be most likely a stop for every capture (unless it's a very coordinated team capturing).
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Intel Rooms
Now this is the area I'm most proud of in this update. I made special props for each team so that the intel room in the hangar "tower" is the project schematics rooms. Check and see the new stuff!
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This time I timed it and a scout can get from spawn to the enemy intel in roughly 25 seconds. In the same timespan an engineer can get to the intel room and make a level 1 sentry in an optmal position.
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Sewer and underpass
This area had a few props added to provide cover and platforms to change from one level to another. Some more detailing and a tweak on the lights did the job. Alos, every base now has a ressupply locker near the rear entrance to the sewers/underpass so they can easly set a strong defensible position in the sewer.
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I also added a full ammo pack so that attacking engineers have a chance to set up an advanced base in this room that is quite strong. Also there are places to set up a hidden teleporter that should remain there unless the defenders are actively looking for it.
I also changed the more angled ramps to stairs.
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Cave
Aside from tweaking the lightning a little more nothing changed here. I just added it so this overview of the map would be very complete.
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The cave connects the two sewer/underpasses to the outside yard and office buildings, creating an 8 for the overhall layout of the map. I have removed the metal ramps and lamp fixtures and placed rock formations and an opening in the ceiling to let the daylight shine trough.
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Office buildings
I added a few shacks I copied from Lumberyard to add a little more interesting gameplay options to this area, such as places to hide teleporters and to sneak in as a spy or pyro. The platforms also give snipers three options of sniping. They can stay on the building and strafe trougnt the door at middle level, they can use the lower level for added cover, or they can use the highest platform, that gives the most field of view and angle advantage, at the cost of having close to no cover.
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If a sniper misses his target he also has plenty of time to run or prepare to face the foe, since only soldiers and demoman could jump up to his platforms directly, and all other classes have to go inside the building and run back to get to the sniper deck.
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Yard
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This area is where lots of fighting will take place. Since I changed my forest props for the Alpine trees from valve I had a feeling that Snipers had too much domination over this area. I added the bridge roof from 2fort to the middle of the yard and with the extra shacks I added they made for a very good playable arena. I also added tons of props that serve as ramps for the upper part of the tunnel.
A crafty engy might realise that he can build a semi-hidden teleporter or sentry gun atop the trees!
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Ok and that's it!
List of things to do to beta: Decent readme file. Map of the level for spawn room.
Well I hope you have enjoyed the update. I'll be packing and prepping a download for tomorrow so you can see all this stuff in first person.
Thanks a lot for the read!
edit:Forgot to add the compile log:
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physics terrain [variable] 66943/1048576 ( 6.4%)Looks cool, but you really don't have to post so many screenshots! Leave out some and let us play the map to see the rest...
I tend to agree with Pogo, your posts could probably do with a little brevity and fewer pictures. All I want to read is a very brief summary of what's been happening and what you're working on.
Damn you've put some work into this though. I'll check it out when I have a chance and let you know what I think.
looks like a very large map, hope that doesn´t affect the ctf-gameplay.
But the map looks really good, i especially like the cave even if it´s a bit too bright in my view.
The stairs on the first red-picture of office buildings need other textures then their supports...
anyway, great job.
Hey guys thanks 
I`m sorry for the HUGE post. I kind of get carried away now and then... I tried to minimize it by changing most of the pics to Tumbnails, so if you want to look more closely at any of the other images you just click it.
Although I haven't playtestet it as much as I'd like, the size of the map actually makes for a change of pace from traditional 2fort style ctf. Usually the flag is captured after a couple attempts are made. Thats one reason for the double return time for the flag. Usually it takes 2 or 3 pushes to bring the flag to the cave or yard and then it finally can be escorted back. That's another reason for the advanced resupply lockers, so you can quickly set up a forward defense.
I managed to put aside some time today and have a run around your map (I didn't actually have a game on it). It's really impressive!!! The screenshots don't do it justice. The custom content fits in seamlessly and both bases have distinct visual styles to them (I particularly like the style of the Blue area).
I have a few small suggestions. I noticed a lot of LOD popping and some models disappearing completely when only a few meters away. I think you could afford to extend the ranges before some of the LODs kick in on your models.
Also, some of the light globes don't appear to be illuminated or unlit_generic. The glow origins look like they are below the globes too and some of your choices for light colours could be more subtle.
These are the light fixtures that I think could do with some work:
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This model was disapearing when the player was far too close:
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SAAWEEEEETT!!!! Adding mirror asap 
Good work
jesus christ that is a lot of pics
love every one of them
i tried to motivate peopel today at work that we should play this map but the guys at ioi are pretty stubborn they wanted to play 2fort and dustbowl and said that map looks "home made" 
SWEET Will add new mirror asap.
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