Posts by Steppenwolf

Quote from Section_Ei8ht

I'm not saying I believe or disbelieve either side, but RD, since those images are so easy to find, post some here then.

lol yea this would be a adequate answer

Quote from Fletch

Well shit, if you saw it on the Internet, it must be true.Go watch Anatomy of the Collapse on TLC or Discovery Channel sometime (or buy the DVD) (or pirate it). It actually explains the collapse using... what's that called... oh yeah, ACTUAL SCIENCE. This shit in these Google videos uses a high school understanding of physics. The same "scientists" and "experts" in these videos are the same oness that say the moon landing is impossible.

See, with this real documentary, they decided to go talk to people that knew what the hell they were talking about: the architect and the building's chief engineer. Turns out they actually have firsthand knowledge about what stresses the building was designed for and what the flaws were. Here are some spicy tidbits:

1) Yes, the building was designed to withstand a plane's impact: in 1960. The idea of giant jumbo jets with high octane jet fuel was not a thought. They were more worried about small communter planes that crashed into high rises all the time.

2) The support structure wasn't designed for jet-fuel level heat. It was designed to withstand a heavy fire that was concievable during the time. It was treated with flame resistent foam. The problem was that jet fuel made the fire burn outside the acceptible range, melting the foam and softening the support frame. Thus, implosion from the center.

3) Those mysterious "explosions" floors beneath the impact zone? It's called gas pressure. When an area is suddently imapct, the air need someplace to go, so it will flow anywhere it can to escape. Down a stairwell. Through an office. Doesn't matter. So all that escaping gas found a a way to escape by blowing out windows. Some thing happens in any explosion. It why the teams that implode buildings remove all the glass first.

4) WTC 7 was crippled by falling debris. There are pictures of the damage pre- and post- collapse of the two towers. The only "evidence" conspiracists have is that the CIA had a branch office there. SPOOKY! THE CIA! IT MUST HAVE BEEN WHERE THEY HID THE ALIENS! Dumb shits. When a building takes a few tons of debris, it tends to be less stable. When firefighteres don't even touch a fire, it tends to burn for a hell of a long time past acceptible norms consideredin construction and design.

5) The "Where's the Debris Theory" is also complete bullshit. Those towers had so many fucking subfloors. Go to the site in NYC sometime. It's a big fucking pit. You can fit a lot of debris there. (Also consider an average floor on a building is about 5-10% materials and the rest open air.

So in conclusion: if you believe this hoax crap, you're an idiot. Congratulations, you believed shit on the internet. I have some money in a Nigerian Bank you can help me get to, but first I need you to give me some money to start the paperwork. We'll split it 50/50 and be rich as Nazis! Smacktard.

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Oh the arrogance over other opinions here :roll:

Ok, lets forget all the physician, engineer, architecture stuff. Lets say the towers were indeed collapsed due to the plane crashes. Still remains the pentagon and pennsylvania stuff and not to forget all the lies and abuses of the situation from the government. Doesn't it bother you that they try to keep you stupid? Why dont they answer questions that they know and that to answer wouldn't harm them if they were not involved and indeed all this shit was planned by Osama Bin Laden? Aren't you the idiot here because you believe what was on TV? You seriously think thats a better source then Internet?

I have seen all the documentarys that came out a few months after the attacks and tried to explain all this. Fact is that many many questions are not answered. The videos that i posted are from this year and i believe that they at least answer a few of these questions and proof other stuff wrong.

Quote from Pericolos0

steppenwolf i have heard loads of scientific statements from both sides... and i'm pretty sure the engineers that believe it just collapsed because of the plane far outweigh the odd scientist that has another theory. There are scientists that have proof to back up their theory that the holocaust didnt occur... do you believe those too?also there is no such things as a scientifically prooven fact

What has this to do with holocaust? :roll:

There are clearly explosions in lower levels visible, some are far below the collapsing levels. How do the other scientists explain these? How do they explain that wtc 7 collapses how it collapses (perfectly straight in free fall speed). How do the other scientists explain that there have been found no big pieces of the pentagon and pennsylvania planes when in EVERY other planecrash that ever happend the places are full of them? :roll:

How do the other scientists explain that some of the steel was vaporized when kerosine can by far not reach the temperature to vaporize steel?

Why have all the wtc steel been sold to asia and meltet short time after the attacks happend? In every fucking planecrash there are investigations over sometimes years where every small piece is collected. why not in the wtc attacks?

Peris i always thought you were open for other opinions. How can you accept all the open questions and even come with this silly holocaust comparison? Some of the questions could be easily answered if the bush administration would give honest answers about what they know. Why dont they give these answers? There can be only three possible answers to this questions imo. 1. they were directly involved in this 2. people close to them were involved to this or did at least knew about it 3. the truth has nothing to do with both theorys but would harm bushs political ambitions since he abused the situation to increase his powers and the power of the united states on the globe

Quote from mawibse

Oh god, the tinfoilehat conspiracy theorists has invaded mapcore.Let me get this straight, your telling me that first you drive a plane into the building and then you get out of the plane to put up some demolitions that you blow?

Naaah, you put the demolitions up first and then you aim for that floor with a gigantish plane but blow the demolitions later?

WTF?!?!? are you completly *BEEEEP*?

Let me repeat with a little more detail.

The explosions of big planes and the subseqvent fuel fire damaged and distorted the supports enough, NO IT DIDNT NEED TO MELT ANY METAL, so it finaly gave up and the floors above, which wheighs a damn lot, so much in fact that even cosmos really incompetent engineering buddies should understand what happens when you drop, not SUPPORT, something that heavy on ANY building, it crumbles, breaks, falls down, go fucking bust, it will be demolished!

IF A SHITLOAD OF TONS FALLS ON SOMETHING FROM HUNDREDS OF METERS UP ONLY KOSMOS STUPIDITY,and my hardon, WOULD HAVE A FEW FLOORS STILL STANDING!

Dont friggin compare this to your lego scraper experiments at home, this is fuckin huge buildings... ghaa!!!

Oh, sorry Kosmo, I just couldnt help myself...

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Oh god please watch the movie first before you post.

It all makes sense to put explosives in the building before attacking it with planes.

Do you think 9/11 attacks would had such an extreme impact on society and politics if the buildings haven't collapsed? According to all these experts is it not possible that kerosine alone brings massive steel to melt or even to vaporize(!) Not to forget that most of the kerosine burned away in the moment of the crash. So the only solution can be to place explosives in it, let it look like a terrorist attack and blow the shit up. Thetre is proof for that. On all videos of the collapsing towers are exlosions visible on lower levels shortly before the collaps reaches the level.

And what is with WTC 7?? there hasnt been a plane crashed in this building and it just collapsed from a fire. This is very suspicious since it was only the third steel/concrete building in history that collapsed from a fire (wtc 1&2 were the two before). Isnt this a funny coincidence?

Where are the billions of gold dollars that were stored under the wtc? They found only 250 millions. Why made the owner of wtc a hugeass insurance against terrorism only 6 weeks before the attacks? Why has the government not released the videotapes of the pentagon attack? I tell you why. because its bullshit that it was attacked by a passenger plane.

Other thought. Lets say the american government wasnt involved in all this. They blamed osama bin laden, started a war in afghanistan and then found out that some crazy head in their own secret agency was responsible for that shit. Would they go to the public and say "hey sorry guys it wasnt osama. some crazy redneck in our own agency planned that shit. please forgive us we are not responsible for him". Who would vote for republicans in the next two decades?

If there wasnt something wrong with all of this they wouldnt keep the truth secret.

I was absolutely sure that some say thats all bs etc. But honestly why do you have more believe in brainwashing propaganda then scientific prooven facts?

I know its on the first look a very weird conspiration theory but at closer look it makes much more sense then what the official version of these things is. I don't believe anymore that islamic terrorists were behind these attacks. Just make a table and compare which pros get Osama Bin Laden on the one side and Bush Administration, Secret Agencies and single persons from the economy on the other side. I dont see a pro on the osama side that is half as serious as one of the many pros on the other side.

I see it as a result of brainwashing by propaganda that some people don't even consider that it may be a conspiration after all the facts.

It doesnt make sense that a Administration and secret agencies that were not involved in the planning of these things hide, destroy and falsificate evidences of how it happend.

The official version of 9/11 is so wishy washy and full of holes. I believe its only in a propaganda brainwashed country possible that so many people blindly believe everything. This whole thing remembers me very much on soviet times. Im glad its still possible that people like this professor can speak open. In Soviet Union he would be in Siberia already. So there is hope still that the truth will see light of day.

Why do you think a Osama Bin Laden can plan these things from a rock in afghanistan and people in a administration/secret agencies full of neo-conservative religious fanatics with lots of powers and money cant?

Do you seriously believe the leaders in capitalist countrys love their people more then their power and money and wouldnt do things that harm the normal people? If so why dont they give a fuck about decent healthcare and social systems for everyone? Why have lobbyists so much power in these countrys?

Found this very interesting video today. Its over two hours but very interesting stuff and well explained by a professor.

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For those who dont have so much time and prefer to see documentation type of stuff look this:

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(its basicaly what the professor said packed in a more compact and visual form)

What do you think about it? Still believe that terrorists were behind it?

Quote from Dark

From Newbs, and Warpig Studios are not.

How can i know? There is no info about the people behind it on their website. I only see a nice website and a few concepts arts which means nothing.

How come they know they would get a license from valve to sell their mod?

And who wants to pay money for a science fiction mod when there are so many quality free ones are in production for hl2? (dystopia, nuclear dawn, iron grip, neotokyo, empires to name a few) :roll:

how do you like my custom car skin?

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its designed to confuse opponents and take some tenths of a second from them

Trackmania Nations :roll:

I know my plan was to boycott it due to starforce malware but i was so bored the one day and now am i addicted

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there physical size is fine, its what they are wearing. I would like to see more variety, maybe delta force style marines, etc.

ins is not about special forces and what they are wearing is completely customizable by player

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Quote from Zaphod

if you are that concerned about it, there are guides on the net as to how to remove it once you get tired of playing.

I believe you haven't understand it. Starforce is installed independedent from the game. It runs always when you start windows and has impact on all games that you play. And it remains in your system even after you deinstalled Trackmania.

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What is Starforce?Starforce is a software copy protection tool installed by PC game publishers, which is designed to prevent the casual copying of retail CDROM applications. It installs as a hidden device driver, without the end-user's knowledge or consent.

Why are we boycotting it?

Starforce has received criticism for installing its own device driver onto computers. The Starforce drivers are often linked to system instability and computer crashes. If these problems occur, the end-user would be unware as to the cause of the problem, and would be helpless to solve the problem.

For example, here's one of the common problems brought by Starforce: under Windows XP, if packets are lost during the reading or writing of a disk, XP interprets this as an error and steps the IDE speed down. Eventually it will revert to 16bit compatibility mode rendering a CD/DVD writer virtually unusable. In some circumstances certain drives cannot cope with this mode and it results in physical hardware failure (Most commonly in multiformat CD/DVD writer drives). A sure sign of this step down occurring is that the burn speeds will get slower and slower (no matter what speed you select to burn at). Starforce, on a regular basis, triggers this silent step down. Until it reaches the latter stages most people do not even realise it is happening.

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Quote from Section_Ei8ht

[edit]Why would you put copy protection on a free game? Boycott StarForce.

Bad trick by the publisher to infect many gamer pc's with that crap?

For the guy who installs the game it is not noticable that this driver is installed too and it remains deep in the system even after uninstalling the game. What i have heard about Starforce is that it can destroy drives physicaly and cause serious performance problems on many games. It is loaded independant from the game every time you start your windows.

This game although free comes with starforce copyprotection malware. Im not going to install this. heard too many bad things about starforce.

Quote from Pericolos0

Minos seriously, you have the talent to be in gamedev one day, keep on pursuing that career, I honestly believe it will get you out of Brazil one day if you really want.

word.

Forget america, they will not get you a visa but when footballers can play in europe then a talented gamedev can do this too.

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lol i got the same t-shirt in blue with white letters

Seriously you will have much trouble finding a team for such a ambitious (imo overambitious) project because these kind of mods usualy fail. Nobody wants to waste his time and workpower on a project that can realisticaly seen not be finished within the next 5 years by a hobby team.

Reduce your featurelist to a realistic amount, work on more stuff to show and i promise you that you will have better cards to find a decent team.

And your x-number of genres and team positions doesn't give a serious impression to the public tbh. In the first moment i thought this is a joke or a fake.

I really like your drawing style. The rocks look somehow fluid/psychedelic. Thats cool.

Quote from The Postman

If you post "lol well i thikn that p3rhapz tehre is a moon good that is making teh muszlims go crazy and there religon is bulshit" I'm going to call you out for being dumb. Again, what Fletch said rings true. If you don't like it go tug on the skirt of your mother or otherwise. They'll care just as much as we do.

See you doing it again. Being arrogant. :roll:

You know as good as me that i haven't argued like that in the mohamed carricatures thread. Still you said i was trolling around and posting random pics that have nothing to do with the discussion, just because you had a different opinion then me. I see things like this as personal insult because i have never experienced such a behaviour from a mod in all the years that im on the internet.

I'm a moderator myself in a 5000 people community and i cant imagine to act so arrogant against community members.

Quote from Kosmo

I am sorry but I can't just press enough this matter

If you honestly think that punishing people without telling them what you are punishing people for is the right thing to do, you are more misguided than the person itself.

Edit: Dear Kosmo, I edited your post because you spammed the same line 100 times as though that would make a point. It doesn't. Presenting a well thought out arguement makes a point. Also, if you'll notice the thing I just wrote right above your post, you'll see I already talked about that. But hey, thanks for calling me misguided. -Luv Fletch

I meant serious posts not nonsense posts :roll:

Like the arabic pictures of mohamed that i posted to documentate that pictures of him are not only made by danish newspapers.