MP_TheSpire - GOW - Released

Good job!

That little making of was an intresting insight.

shot two is stunning, definatly got to pick up this editor.

The lighting in that first shot looks infinitely better than the older versions.

Rockin. Love the style and setting

i cant check out the map cuz my laptop wont run anything newer then source engine but judging from the shots it looks decent. i am just surprised how soon the gears of war style and look started to look out of date though. i guess the biggest problem is that there isnt enough visual connection to real life like everyday products. its something bioshock did a lot better with loads of models of stuff just laying around, cigarettes, booze, tools, magazines and stuff.

ah well thats not your fault though. that was more of a rant about GoW in general. the map looks nicely crafted

Lovely, congrats on another nice and good looking map!

i don't have gears on pc just on 360 otherwise id love to play it

@74 i know what you mean however i thought gears of war kinda looked OUTDATED the day it came out that is largely due to this bullshot:

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... OUTDATED by its own standards

nothing in the game had shaders this good or texture resolution this high !

TRUE!

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We are authoring most character and world normal maps and texture maps at 2048x2048 resolution. We feel this is a good target for games running on mid-range PC's in the 2006 timeframe. Next-generation consoles may require reducing texture resolution by 2X, and low-end PC's up to 4X, depending on texture count and scene complexity.

Yeah! Right there, up in my ass.

I think they expected 2006-7 pcs to be far better than they actually are.

Quote from buddy the designer

TRUE!

Yeah! Right there, up in my ass.

I think they expected 2006-7 pcs to be far better than they actually are.

So when I looked in the editor for UT3 the other day and saw all those textures and skins that were 2048x2048, I was just hallucinating?

I haven't looked actually since i don't own any of those but on screenshots i've seen it all looks dang blurry and if it's really 2048x2 then somethings wrong.

Final version looks pretty cool but I somehow miss the old warmer lighting. But you can't please everyone

No, it looked outdated because they had to make the damn thing fit on an Xbox360.

Also, the reason those demo screenshots look much better than the final game is that they didn't overlay all the muddy DOF blur, overly-bloomed and desaturated post-processing effects.

Also, the vast majority of the textures you see in the Xbox version of GoW, are set to be no higher-res than 1024. The engine.ini locks them down so the game will fit in memory.

those shots also have anti-aliasing, which apparently only DirectX 10 can do now :roll:

when i said out of date i didnt refer to the resolution of textures, polygon counts or lighting quality but the visual style, their architecture, the ornaments and everything else that defines the look of their fictional world. its quality work and very unique. i love the effort they put into creating a unique world and experience. a lot of games these days just do some fantasy look that has been done before or do real world stuff. what i really mean though is that the whole look of GoW starts to look a bit "old fashioned" after just a few months after release. maybe they went to far and most of their assets are just too similar in their visual appearance so that the look starts to feel worn out too quickly. not sure since i didnt finish the game.

its just my personal opinion anyway. its just that whenever i look at an area ingame i feel like i have seen it before in some similar place.

i agree with bioshock not being perfect in that regard either but it just feels more authentic to me

I had the same feeling while playing gow, the whole world seemed to be made of stone and metal. There aren't too many things that indicate that people have been living there, prop wise.

Hourences:

I've been reading your making of krodan article and came across this text passage:

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The rocks were unwrapped in such way that most of their UV seams are in the vertex painted areas. A planar UV map on Z was then added using UV channel 2 to cover up the seams. The idea was to use channel 1 for the rock texture, and channel 2 for the sand texture. Because the sand texture is on top of the rock texture, and because it uses a different UV lay out, it would be hiding the seams of channel 1 below.

I don't quite get this, are the seams to be placed in the same position you would have to, when blending 3 textures by mat id's? It would be nice if you could post a picture, explaining the situation.