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2K on Bioshock: "Why should your brother play for free?

  • -HP-
  • September 5, 2007 at 9:22 PM
  • st0lve
    • September 6, 2007 at 2:38 PM
    • #21

    1 word that I've been in love with lately:

    ASSHOLES

  • KoKo5oVaR
    • September 6, 2007 at 3:02 PM
    • #22
    Quote from Furyo

    I'm always wary of any "OMFG Boycott" reactions. They get blown out of proportion every time, and it's just not part of my culture. The "I'm never buying anything from them in my life" attitude is just too simple for my own taste.

    Then try to find me what other pressure means could you have against a publishing company as a customer rather than giving them no money ?

    Open a competitive publishing company ? Being super rich and buying all their actions ? Going all John Wayne and rampaging the publisher's offices ??

    But haha, yeah actually if every single angry player of bioshock buy actions from 2k games and then altogether ask for their money, they are ruined

  • Furyo
    • September 6, 2007 at 3:43 PM
    • #23
    Quote from KoKo5oVaR

    Then try to find me what other pressure means could you have against a publishing company as a customer rather than giving them no money ?

    Open a competitive publishing company ? Being super rich and buying all their actions ? Going all John Wayne and rampaging the publisher's offices ??

    But haha, yeah actually if every single angry player of bioshock buy actions from 2k games and then altogether ask for their money, they are ruined

    What I meant was to emphasize the "in my life" part of things. People blame companies today for what happened 15-20 years ago, or will blame 2K for the next decade because of the Bioshock release.

    Besides the drama just escalates. Sure your only means to get your point across is to not buy the game. Big deal. Your money is a drop of water in the ocean and the only way that your own action could hurt them was if you mutualized it. Went on a rampage protest with hords of people under your unified banner.

    Like that's gonna happen.....

    Remember Ubisoft placed Securom in SCCT. Are you still holding a grudge against them for this? If you look at the big picture, no one gives a damn, or remembers any of that.

    So be pissed all you want, but

    1) you're missing out on a great game

    2) The dev team behind the crappy publishing practices deserve to be supported

    3) You can always get yourself a rented x360 and play that.

  • Mojo
    • September 6, 2007 at 3:57 PM
    • #24

    from what I read last night that tech is actually not someone that works with 2K but some offsite tech support or something (read on shacknews and confirmed by the main community manager - http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=150 ... r_15071054)

    But some interesting points were brought up (If you buy a movie, you don't buy it for everyone, etc), but it makes sense with computers (in a way). It should be one key per computer, not per user on computer, but I am probably just regurgitating what has been said already.

  • D3ads
    • September 6, 2007 at 4:33 PM
    • #25

    That's lame, but pretty unsurprising.

  • jaboo224
    • September 6, 2007 at 5:28 PM
    • #26

    game drama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! D:!

    My personal opinion is that i agree that 2k games should of not put this securom bullshit with their game. it only ruins it for the people who don't warez or download illegally.

    does the steam version do the same thing?

  • leileilol
    • September 6, 2007 at 6:09 PM
    • #27
    Quote from Furyo

    Remember Ubisoft placed Securom in SCCT. Are you still holding a grudge against them for this? If you look at the big picture, no one gives a damn, or remembers any of that.

    i'm still pissed over starforce in trackmania sunrise

  • aevirex
    • September 6, 2007 at 6:36 PM
    • #28

    I'm still pissed about StarForce in Trackmania Nations (a free game for those who don't know)!

  • JAL
    • September 6, 2007 at 7:17 PM
    • #29

    I don't really believe in software such as StarForce or Securom. Because

    they do very little to stop piracy. Every single one of those silly

    anti-piracy softwares can be cracked or disabled.

    It's not like a person who is 100% sure he's downloading the game online

    (in other words pirating it) suddenly decides not to do it

    because of some copyright protection software. He doesn't have to worry

    about such bullshit because the torrent website he usually visits is now

    providing the full game cracked and working.

    Sure if a game doesn't have übercopyrightprotection it will be on the web

    before you can say 'oh snap' but the same will happen to games that have it.

    Also I'm not talking about myself, I bought Bioshock on Steam

  • Fletch
    • September 6, 2007 at 11:23 PM
    • #30

    After the Shack news update, I surfed around and dug up some more about this. Basically this is what happened. It was a family computer and the dad had the admin account. Everybody else had private accounts with all the XP privacy settings turned on, meaning that if you installed software, it only installed for your user (unless you were the admin), and you can't access things installed on other user's parts of the harddrive. One kid installed Bioshock and the other wanted to play, but couldn't access. Secrumrom got fucked up because it said it was already installed on the computer (so says the registry), but the kid couldn't access it.

    So its partially the dad's fault for the uber-privacy setup on the computer, partially the kids fault for installing it on his account and not getting teh dad to install it on the master account, and partially securerom's fault for an obscure design defect.

    But because the internet is a bunch of fucked up idiots with too much free time, it's 2K's fault. Go figure.

    In the long run, none of this matters. The five install limit is annoying, but nobody bothered to ask why they hell somebody had installed a game more than 5 times in less than 2 days. The widescreen issue is just fucking dumb. It's the default behavior for UE3, and nobody noticed or cared about it on R6:Vegas, so that says something there. Critical people will find reasons to be critical, and the gaming "media" will continue to fuel it because they want more diggs. End of story.

  • ⌐■_■
    • September 6, 2007 at 11:27 PM
    • #31

    That was a powerful read.

  • Section_Ei8ht
    • September 7, 2007 at 7:35 AM
    • #32
    Quote

    Remember Ubisoft placed Securom in SCCT. Are you still holding a grudge against them for this? If you look at the big picture, no one gives a damn, or remembers any of that.

    Actually, it wasnt Securom, it was StarForce3, which is worse. And Ubisoft got off my shit list because after all the complaints, they voided their contract with StarForce and stopped using it (ironically, switching to Securom, but that was before the version of Securom that Bioshock uses, which is shit. Securom was a great DRM scheme until version 7).

    Quote

    Also I'm not talking about myself, I bought Bioshock on Steam Ah Yeah

    Steam version still comes with Securom (which is also pointless, because Steam IS a DRM scheme).

  • spartan
    • September 7, 2007 at 5:11 PM
    • #33

    from http://kotaku.com/gaming/hyper-multi_ta ... 297338.php

    Quote

    "Is a man not entitled to the game on his computer? NO, says the brother in the living room, it belongs to ME. NO says the man at 2K, it belongs to US. NO says the users of torrents, it belongs to EVERYONE."

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