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[Source] Compiling maps under Vista = unresponsive system.

  • R_Yell
  • June 27, 2007 at 10:47 AM
  • R_Yell
    • June 27, 2007 at 10:47 AM
    • #1

    I'm experiencing significant issues when I try to compile maps under Windows Vista. Basically the system becomes unresponsive until the compile process ends. This is quite annoying, in XP just I had to reduce priority for that process, but I can't do that in Vista because the system won't respond.

    Anyone experienced similar problems? Any magical fix?

  • Psy
    • June 27, 2007 at 1:33 PM
    • #2

    Uninstall Vista then install XP. Fixed.

    j/k. Just wait for the compile to finish.

  • R_Yell
    • June 27, 2007 at 2:33 PM
    • #3

    If installing and configuring all my apps again wasn't so boring and time consuming, I'd revert to XP without a doubt. There aren't too many issues using Vista for me (without count how much memory it consumes), is just this compile thing.

  • NightWolf
    • June 27, 2007 at 3:33 PM
    • #4

    It seems that the latest SDK update is the issue because I have Vista and compiling was working fine for me until this last update.

    Lets just hope i'm wrong because you know how long it takes for Valve to get another update for the SDK out.

  • R_Yell
    • June 27, 2007 at 4:50 PM
    • #5

    Ah, thx mate, then it will be fixed in six months or so.

  • Dodger
    • June 27, 2007 at 5:14 PM
    • #6

    It works fine for me..

  • Kakburk
    • June 27, 2007 at 5:36 PM
    • #7

    Same here, I can compile without trouble and I'm running vista on the machine I'm currently mapping with. :F

  • Zacker
    • June 27, 2007 at 5:43 PM
    • #8

    OT:

    Quote from R_Yell

    There aren't too many issues using Vista for me (without count how much memory it consumes), is just this compile thing.

    With Vista they finally switched to a proper memory management system where it intelligently caches data in the memory even if you don't need it atm. This makes Vista look like it's using more mem than it actually is. The fact that it uses this more memory will make your computer faster, not slower. Linux has been doing this for years.

  • R_Yell
    • June 27, 2007 at 6:06 PM
    • #9

    Well, now I don't know what to think, seems some of you have no such problem. I'm also suffering a similar problem (general unresponsiveness) when XSI freezes. I can't open the task manager, but the OS is still working.

    Quote

    With Vista they finally switched to a proper memory management system where it intelligently caches data in the memory even if you don't need it atm. This makes Vista look like it's using more mem than it actually is. The fact that it uses this more memory will make your computer faster, not slower. Linux has been doing this for years.

    Yes, I was aware of that, but this OS requires more memory because there are a lot of new services not present in XP as well. I noticed a considerably higher HD swapping.

  • BioPulse
    • June 28, 2007 at 11:32 AM
    • #10

    My pc always becommes unresponsive, had that on every type of windows i've trid, vista, xp , me , 2000, guess it's also to do with the speed of your pc etc. do you have a dual core processor, you shoudl in theory not have to experiences lockups with dual core, but i'm not sure.

  • Bic-B@ll
    • June 28, 2007 at 11:41 AM
    • #11

    i dont think ive ever tried to use my pc while compiling seeing as it is a process that is devoted to using as much resources as it can. i typically compiled with high priority with explorer closed over night.

  • R_Yell
    • June 28, 2007 at 12:21 PM
    • #12

    My issue is basically comes from the OS, not hardware related. I got a dual core but that thing is not relevant, the point is Windows is a multitasking OS, doesn't mind if you have single or multi core CPU.

    Don't know what is going on with my Vista, but it happens the same every time some app stop responding or the mentioned compiling process. It doesn't let me use task manager (CTRL + CAPS + ESC in Vista) to kill the process, desktop and everything is blocked too. I can do CTRL+ALT+DEL to enter in the log off options, no more. Maybe it's a configuration error in my system, don't know.

  • hessi
    • June 28, 2007 at 2:07 PM
    • #13

    i am pretty sure you can set priority while starting a process. maybe some google and good old windows command line hacking will help you.

  • R_Yell
    • June 28, 2007 at 3:02 PM
    • #14

    That would be solution, but I couldn't find how to assign lower priority before a process starts. However, in the end I need to know why the OS doesn't let me use task manager like every other past windows versions.

    BTW, I've solved the compiling issues using a batch compiler, which assign low priority directly.

  • madgernader
    • June 28, 2007 at 5:25 PM
    • #15

    Wow, I don't get a problem to that extent, I'm running vista and the worse that happens is hammer and the compile appear to stop responding if I click off its window to do other stuff, but I can still access everything fine....

    I like vista so far, even with all the negitive comments, my one complaint is for some reason it gets owned by Java, as soon as its running for any bit of time, my cpu usage jumps and hangs at high 90%-100% and causes some overheating....

  • R_Yell
    • June 30, 2007 at 5:28 PM
    • #16

    Seems I found the problem, it was the user account control ( that annoying thing that ask you permission for everything). I re-enabled it and issues disappeared. Heh, just hope this can help other unfortunate people like me.

  • Meotwister
    • June 30, 2007 at 6:04 PM
    • #17

    weird that you can't get to the task manager from ctrl+alt+del... that's how I get to it in Vista.

    Geez that's a hard trade-off... turning UAC back on to compile?! idk if I can handle that.

  • R_Yell
    • June 30, 2007 at 10:33 PM
    • #18

    Yes well, maybe I didn't explained too well, the computer just didn't let me do anything except visiting the ctrl+alt+screen, but not launching some app (like task manager). Just very odd. The trade-off is there, but I'll have to live with it for the moment. Imagine debugging some code when the hl2 executable crashed and I only could log off

    BTW, now I'm happier with Vista, in XP I had to set priorities manually for some apps, but this OS handle loads much better.

  • NightWolf
    • July 3, 2007 at 5:37 AM
    • #19
    Quote from NightWolf

    It seems that the latest SDK update is the issue because I have Vista and compiling was working fine for me until this last update.Lets just hope i'm wrong because you know how long it takes for Valve to get another update for the SDK out.

    I was wrong yay!

    My problem was an unoptimized map plus my borked mobo doesent help either

  • R_Yell
    • July 3, 2007 at 10:13 AM
    • #20

    This wasn't Valve's or Vista's fault in the end In fact I should say Vista has been much more responsive now, once my main issues are gone.

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