id's new game / engine

    woot!

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    Here is the Press release from id and a report from WWDC.

    Technically I'm not totally convinced YET (!)*, but imagine an rpg like game with such a setting. Oh my god... (I really love the style).

    *Although something caught my attention, there are softshadows in the pictures. Even if they are prerendered like in UE3 I think it is better than the hard edged stencil shadows (prerendered shadows might give them performance they can reinvest in materials or something else (Mega Texture )).

    Sure is bad screens, but I wonder where those 20gb of textures are used.

    Looks VERY low res on some places, like the road compared to the debris on it.

    Also, where is the geometry on those rocks?

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    Sure is bad screens, but I wonder where those 20gb of textures are used.Looks VERY low res on some places, like the road compared to the debris on it.

    Uniquely texturing everything. Imagine the memory you'd need to put a unique texture on every face in just a HL1 level, not counting the numerous passes on textures today.

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    Showcasing a highly detailed environment set in desert valley--presumably a race track given the banners, flags, spectator, and vehicle--the demonstration of the new engine was said to use over 20GB of unique textures. "[Artists and developers] can go in and look at the world and, say, change the color of the mountaintop, or carve their name into the rock," said Carmack (thanks Engadget). "They can change as much as they want on surfaces with no impact on the game." According to MacRumors, Carmack also noted the demo was completed in only 10 days.

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    Hopefully higher res video will be available soon.

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    http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=4440

    remember people this is merely a Tech demo not ids next IP

    the whole 20gb of textures thing is the evolution of the doom3 / QW:ET mega texture technology for terrains.

    doesn't look spectacular but imo, but this isn't direct media and if it's true it was made in 11 or so days then i suppose it is somewhat spectacular.

    It's gonna be interesting to how the texturing tech works.

    I surprised i didn't realised this sometime ago, since JC was rambling about seamless and unique texturing at one of his QC keynotes a couple of years ago.

    One thing this has certainly sparked is a debate about vista and dx10, is it all that? they is obviously opengl and are hitting a good number of major platforms.

    Hm not impressed...looks good, but it doesnt seem to be the big leap forward or cause such a big stir like the doom 3 engine did back then for instance.

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    Uniquely texturing everything. Imagine the memory you'd need to put a unique texture on every face in just a HL1 level, not counting the numerous passes on textures today.

    Yes I understand that, what I meant is that it will still limit the actual resolution, like on that track.

    Quality, not quantity

    The video was a lot more impressive though, and the overall look is very nice.

    20GB textures? WTF! i will never install a game that takes 20GB just for textures, its a complete waste of HD space, no matter how good the game will be.

    Meh, looks like most of those textures are just like a plain colour with a normal map with details on top. I mean it doesn't look bad, but this demo doesn't really show anything that I think isn't possibly with conventional technology.

    Its an interesting idea, but I'm not sure that its as big of a deal as Carmack makes it sound. Kinda sad that my expectations of something from id Software are a mere shadow of what they were a few years ago. But I guess thats what you get when you don't want to expand your company.

    Hopefully they'll show an actual game at E3 that'll be more impressive.

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    "[Artists and developers] can go in and look at the world and, say, change the color of the mountaintop, or carve their name into the rock," said Carmack (thanks Engadget). "They can change as much as they want on surfaces with no impact on the game."

    They really didn't explain that well... what are they trying to say here? What is there in this that we can't do already?

    It sounds like another "now with dynamic weapon switching".

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