ESRB, Oblivion...let the debate rage!

    Quote from Phatsniper

    Did anything ever happen over Max Payne 2's full nude Mona skin then? All that required was a console command.

    I don't recall anything being done about that. Too far in hindsight, I suppose.

    Quote from Reno

    I think the point was that the content shipped with the game, it was just "locked" and required something to unlock it. They can't do anything about mods changing things - you can't accomodate for that on the age ratings on the box - but if something comes with the game (ie. sex minigame in GTA, topless skins in Oblivion) then they can. Even if it does require a mod to unlock it seems.

    Exactly...the fact that Take2 again allowed a game to ship with stuff on the disc that has nudies and such after the Hot Coffee thing has me scratching my head. I personally don't care about the ratings or really if it has any harmful effects on gamers because I don't think that it does (my opinion).

    My concern is that all this does is create tomfoolery and shenanigans around ESRB, and we don't really need any more of that, do we? Unless the goal is to rethink the entire ratings system and force a better solution, I don't really understand what T2 is doing...unless they think the controversy will help spur more free PR and sales. A possible strategy, indeed.

    well from what I hear any content that is locked must be disclosed when submiting to the esrb. I take it this skin wasn't included in the 60 plus page doc that zenimax sent them. maybe the texture artist that slipped it in will be looking for a new job soon. very irresponsible if you ask me. they should hire me, I'd never do something like that. lol

    At the end of the day, somebody within either the publisher or developer needs to lean back and say "Heeeey, wait a sec. This is going to cause us some problems donw the road." My thought would be on the developer side, simply because they know all the assets. Especially on something like an Elder Scrolls game that they know is going to be heavily modded and all of their art assets poured over in detail.

    Another perspective was that Oblivion probably should have been rated M to begin with. Hell, you go around hacking the crap out of everything in that game. How it got a T rating to begin with is beyond me.

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