the new cartoon thread

    Because the riots are still going and the other one is locked, here is a new one.

    The latest news:

    India minister and muslim scholars call for the beheading of Danish cartoonists and a reward of 10 million dollars. Im almost tempted myself.

    And:

    Quote from RD

    and the ironic truth of the cartoons

    I prefer to look at it as a kind of "last straw that broke the camel's back." It's a fucking shame that it's led to this, but you must admit that antagonization by the West (Italian politician saying he'll wear a shirt with the cartoon, reprintings, etc) hasn't helped.

    I find it kind of ironic that most of the deaths in the Middle East and Asia have been rioters accidentally trampling each other or getting caught in their own fires. Not a funny ironic, mind you. Just a sad ironic.

    Also, African riots are probably going to get a lot more dangerous, because that is a whole continent that has been brimming with racial, ethnic, tribal, and religious tensions for a hundred years. Anytime somebody sets off something like this, you get deaths in the hundreds or thousands by the time it's over.

    Quote from The Postman

    I prefer to look at it as a kind of "last straw that broke the camel's back." It's a fucking shame that it's led to this, but you must admit that antagonization by the West (Italian politician saying he'll wear a shirt with the cartoon, reprintings, etc) hasn't helped.

    You make it sound like the poor muslims are always pestered and finally fight back.

    Quote from Lurker

    The cartoons were the spark that ignited the fire. What goes around comes around, and that goes to both sides in this argument.

    Are you saying they will stop rioting and start drawing cartoons about us?

    Still you blame it on the west, even after they have massacred dozens?

    Obviously they have no mercy for those who insult their prophet, live in the same country or just have a diffrent religion.

    The only way you can get around their ignorance is to make them aware of it. Admitting that the cartoonist made a mortal mistake and deserve to die isnt the solution st0lve. Its idiocy.

    The biggest mistake we made was to tell them this whole thing is a flaw in of western society.

    It was the salt in their wounds

    I didn't say that.

    I just think that we all knew what the drawings did, and we all got so happy cause we "owned" the Muslims with our Freedom of Speech.

    But now, like that Italian guy, it doesn't do anything new, except cause havoc and crap in the ME and such.

    the best thing to do when insulting islam is punishable by death is to all insult islam, instead of being cowards and running away. This has happened before and probably a million times, its time they get rid of their sickness

    Quote from RD

    its time they get rid of their sickness

    And you think that this can be achieved by insulting their beliefs? i highly doubt it. it does the exact opposite. Moderate muslims become radicalized by these things and join the troops of terror and mindless killers. I don't think it's the right approach.

    Someone who becomes a mindless killer over a toon isnt moderate. That is exactly the sickness. What other approach is there?

    Quote from RD

    You make it sound like the poor muslims are always pestered and finally fight back.

    Considering the entire Muslim world was relatively quiet even with the invasion of Afghanistan, even with the invasion of Iraq, even with all the prisoner torture scandals and abuses of the Koran that happened, and all that other stuff? Yes, it seems like they've put up with a lot of shit and are finally mad as hell.

    Quote from RD

    its time they get rid of their sickness

    If only we could think of some kind of "Final Solution" or something to this whole Muslim question. :roll:

    Quote from RD

    Still you blame it on the west, even after they have massacred dozens?Obviously they have no mercy for those who insult their prophet, live in the same country or just have a diffrent religion.

    Are you truly this fucking stupid? Denmark made the cartoons. Denmark printed the cartoons. The EU reprinted those cartoons after the small initial backlash. Then cocky politicians started touting the cartoons as the pinnacle of free-speech when in reality it was just xenophobia for having so many North Africans moving into their countries.

    Yes it's the West's fault in this case. You poke a fucking tiger long enough with a stick and the fucker's gonna take a swing at you.

    Quote from RD

    Someone who becomes a mindless killer over a toon isnt moderate. That is exactly the sickness. What other approach is there?

    Moderate Republicans voted Bush into a second term based on fear-mongering strategies that Muslims were gonna get them. This is no different. You take a bunch of people who are poor, un-educated, and angry about one small thing and you give them an ability to feel like they command their own fate for once and they're gonna go nuts. The same thing happened to the Nazis, the same thing happened to the Stalinists, and every movement that involved inciting the poor to riot against their oppressors. The sickness is universal no matter how many times you try and pin this strictly on the Muslims as a whole. This isn't an excuse for their actions, RD, it's an explanation, however I'm fairly certain this will fly clear over your head.

    Quote from The Postman

    Considering the entire Muslim world was relatively quiet

    As quiet as 911.

    Quote from The Postman

    Moderate Republicans voted Bush into a second term based on fear-mongering strategies that Muslims were gonna get them. This is no different.

    Did you Americans ignore the problem after Bush was voted in again? Or did you in fact confront it? You confronted it, your media is slaughtering the man and 60% of you think it was a mistake.

    I will pinpoint the difference for you: Islam is still perfect and flawless, the riots are completely justified.

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    The same thing happened to the Nazis, the same thing happened to the Stalinists, and every movement that involved inciting the poor to riot against their oppressors. The sickness is universal no matter how many times you try and pin this strictly on the Muslims as a whole. This isn't an excuse for their actions, RD, it's an explanation, however I'm fairly certain this will fly clear over your head.

    You agree that it is a sickness and that it has to be dealt with. Universal or not is really irrelevant, but just to point it out: muslims in the ME didnt vote for Bush and christians arent muslims. Thats how universal being angry over an islamic cartoon is.

    Cancer is universal and you treat it. The nazis didnt go away by being nice.

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    Are you truly this fucking stupid? Denmark made the cartoons. Denmark printed the cartoons. The EU reprinted those cartoons after the small initial backlash. Then cocky politicians started touting the cartoons as the pinnacle of free-speech when in reality it was just xenophobia for having so many North Africans moving into their countries.

    Yes it's the West's fault in this case. You poke a fucking tiger long enough with a stick and the fucker's gonna take a swing at you.

    A fucking tiger is a mindless killing machine. So... you agree with me?

    Anyways, what do you guys suggest as a solution?

    Quote from RD

    As quiet as 911.

    Hurrrrrrr... I'm not even going to dignify that with comment.

    Quote from RD

    Did you Americans ignore the problem after Bush was voted in again? Or did you in fact confront it? You confronted it, your media is slaughtering the man and 60% of you think it was a mistake.

    Exactly, and this is what we have to promote over there, the slow removal of Islamic state regimes. Not stupid antagonistic cartoons.

    Quote from RD

    You agree that it is a sickness and that it has to be dealt with. Universal or not is really irrelevant, but just to point it out: muslims in the ME didnt vote for Bush and christians arent muslims. Thats how universal being angry over an islamic cartoon is.

    I knew this would fly right over your head. Should I break out the finger puppets to explain it monosyllabically for you? The cartoons only fanned the flames and gave an excuse for the people in the governments in these countries to really whip the crowd into a frenzy. Ever action by the EU afterwards only added fuel to that fire. The sickness is a universality because it can effect anyone, in this case it has infected the impoverished peoples of the ME.

    Quote from RD

    A fucking tiger is a mindless killing machine. So... you agree with me?

    Way to dodge the point, retard.

    retard? You out of points or something? Couldnt find anything relevant to say anymore, so you have to bash his intelligence? You just broke rule #1 and #4 in http://%7boption%7d

    By the looks of it, rd is good at twisting words and therefor he really owned your arguments in this. But you dont have to go call him retard just because that upsets you. The effect is really reversed then.

    Keep it civil please.

    Other than that, I think you guys are agreeing at most points, RD is just more out there and shoots off with his loose tounge. And this is where I think The Postman disagrees, because he wants thread softly about this and maybe it'll go away. Personally, I'm for that approach a couple of more months. Maybe a year.

    If that doesnt help, well, you compared them to the Nazis...

    Quote from Skjalg

    retard? You out of points or something? Couldnt find anything relevant to say anymore, so you have to bash his intelligence? You just broke rule #1 and #4 in http://%7boption%7d

    Oh shut the hell up Skjalg. Leave the moderating to moderators.

    Quote from Skjalg

    By the looks of it, rd is good at twisting words and therefor he really owned your arguments in this.

    He didn't own anything, he dodged every point of that post and didn't argue so much as just try and be the usual out-there retard that RD is when it comes to any topic that even comes close to dealing with religions.

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