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  • Spellbinder
  • September 28, 2005 at 10:17 AM
  • Kosmo
    • September 29, 2005 at 8:46 AM
    • #21

    I flipped through the weekly WHO newsletter I get, and there was something about suicides there just a while ago.

    It might suprise you, but actually Easter Europe has highest suicide rate, and Latin America, Some Muslim countries and few of the Asian countries have lowest suicide rate. Now ofcourse we should take in consideration that it is 'rate' and not actual numbers, but it is just stupid to compare the suicide numbers of a country that has 120million (like Japan) to a country that has 5million (like Evil Empire of Finland).

    There are some "hot countries" that have high rate and increasing numbers over the past 50 years, and those are: most of the central european countries, Finland, Sweden, Russia, China, Japan, New Zealand, Australia and countries in caribbea.

  • Jezpuh
    • September 29, 2005 at 12:16 PM
    • #22

    True, but I heard that a lot of people commit suicide in North Europe because the sun doesn't go down completely at certain times of the year. Because of the frustration brought with this they commint suicide.

    Also, I mean the most northern parts of Scandinavia.

  • Evert
    • September 29, 2005 at 12:18 PM
    • #23

    Minos, not Sweden, Norway and Denmark, but Finland has (had?) a high suicide rate.

    Sweden used to have highe rate then what it is atm I'm fairly sure.

  • Kosmo
    • September 29, 2005 at 1:03 PM
    • #24

    Yup, Finland has the highest suicide ratio of scandinavia, especially among yougn people.

    Jezpuh: Reasons might be many, and varied, but I don't think that in any stretch of imagination, the midnight sun has anything to do with it, on the contrary, many university studies show that people are more vigorous and happy during this perioid, and again, there are studies that show, many people are more depressed during the dark and cold winter.

    So if I had to bet such a morbid thing, I'd put my money on the dark and cold winter rather than the lushious summer that all scandinavians love so much.

  • D3ads
    • September 29, 2005 at 1:28 PM
    • #25
    Quote from DUFFY

    god bless d3only he could critique a dead persons music interests

    I was criticising the newspaper for pigeonholing Goth as 'depressed teenagers who wear black and listen to heavy metal music', Goth culture has nothing to do with metal.

  • Grin
    • September 29, 2005 at 1:49 PM
    • #26

    The Finnish version of suicide is much less emotional. It's more like drink a bottle or two of hard liquor, get a gun, say "ah fuck" and KABOSH!

    Btw, excellent movie about the subject:

    [Blocked Image: http://www.theurbanwire.com/UW/suicideclub2.jpg]

  • Kosmo
    • September 29, 2005 at 1:59 PM
    • #27

    Suicide club is pretty weird take on the subject, but non the less a view to a twisted mind of a Japanese movie maker

  • Section_Ei8ht
    • September 29, 2005 at 3:54 PM
    • #28

    Gonna hafta agree with Mazy on this one.

  • alexroyce
    • September 29, 2005 at 4:10 PM
    • #29

    Silly goths.

  • Hipshot
    • September 29, 2005 at 4:40 PM
    • #30
    Quote from Minotauro

    hahahaha

    Ferret: I heard nordic countries have the highest suicide rates in the world. It's said that they can't go out when it's snowing (99% of the time ) and have nothing better to do at home. Boredom seems to be enough reason to suicide, who knows

    Bullshit. You think that snow and cold is a high factor when comes down to suecide? I say not. Some people, dosen't like the cold and winter, like me, but its a LONG step to suecide, and there's often more things behind it if someone kill themselves.

    I had a friend who hung him self, that is the only person I know, even far away, even heard of doing it. But he was tragic, his life sucked, no grades whatso ever, no real future, only watched movies all the time. It's just sad. I must add, that he killed himself in the middle of June, the funeral was two weeks later, ~30C hot. Not even close to the winter.

  • Spellbinder
    • September 29, 2005 at 5:08 PM
    • #31
    Quote from Hipshot

    Bullshit. You think that snow and cold is a high factor when comes down to suecide? I say not. Some people, dosen't like the cold and winter, like me, but its a LONG step to suecide, and there's often more things behind it if someone kill themselves. I had a friend who hung him self, that is the only person I know, even far away, even heard of doing it. But he was tragic, his life sucked, no grades whatso ever, no real future, only watched movies all the time. It's just sad. I must add, that he killed himself in the middle of June, the funeral was two weeks later, ~30C hot. Not even close to the winter.

    When it is cold and dark for so long, especially up north in the winter where you maybe get 5 min of sun in the shortest days, it makes you lack of certain vitamines which make you feel less active, and it can go down from there, nothing says you have to kill your self right at that moment, but one thing will lead to another untill finally you dont want to be around any more.

    As you said there is probably other stuff going on aswell, but if you would have lived in a sunnier country maybe you had bigger chance to get out of it.

    And to top it of, its a stated fact from professors/and medical personal that the cold and darkness up here makes ppl feel more angst (sp?) and depressed.

    Spellbinder.

  • Hipshot
    • September 29, 2005 at 5:35 PM
    • #32
    Quote from Spellbinder

    When it is cold and dark for so long, especially up north in the winter where you maybe get 5 min of sun in the shortest days, it makes you lack of certain vitamines which make you feel less active, and it can go down from there, nothing says you have to kill your self right at that moment, but one thing will lead to another untill finally you dont want to be around any more.

    As you said there is probably other stuff going on aswell, but if you would have lived in a sunnier country maybe you had bigger chance to get out of it.

    And to top it of, its a stated fact from professors/and medical personal that the cold and darkness up here makes ppl feel more angst (sp?) and depressed.

    Spellbinder.

    Actually, the parts where population counts, like here ~3Hs by car up, and below sthlm, the sun is minimun 5H day, when its as dark as it gets. And also, the vinters in sweden isn't that hard, the climate here in sthlm is compareable to NY in many cases. It even so, that there's more snow there sometime. There are winters here when the temp just goes below 0 that isn't much.

  • MrH2o
    • September 29, 2005 at 10:46 PM
    • #33

    I think its a waste of good looking girls

  • Hipshot
    • September 30, 2005 at 10:44 AM
    • #34
    Quote from MrH2o

    I think its a waste of good looking girls

    Yes, and that is why this storry is sad

    Who cares about ugly people jumping from windows, really?

  • csharp
    • October 2, 2005 at 8:28 PM
    • #35

    :/

  • Minos
    • October 2, 2005 at 8:54 PM
    • #36
    Quote from Hipshot

    Yes, and that is why this storry is sad

    Who cares about ugly people jumping from windows, really?

    Good point.

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