Bush "Troubled" by Gay Marriages in SF

Come on, how can you hate on a religion that worships Bibleman?

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he's got a sword. its kind of like a lightsaber... with Jesus power!

/me pushes buttons

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Let me put it in small words for you hoss. This is not a Christian nation. Maybe a lot of its inhabitants are Christian, but much like how we don't have an official language, we don't have an official religion. That fucker can stop cramming Christ down my throat and I'll be a lot happier.

Yes that fucker probably should stop cramming Christ down your throat, but you at least see my point as to why he's 'troubled.' I fail to see me bringing it up, and not joining in the circle jerk, worthy of a thousand laughing acronyms because I'm 'close-minded' or that I'm being 'ironic' when it's obviously one of the chief factors to why he's upset and I was being neither.

Seems I mentioned religion and you all had a heart attack and assumed I was some bible carrying, gay bashing, Bush supporting simpleton. Talk about close-minded, eh? Have I used the obligatory roll eyes emoticon yet?

I, again, am personally not against Gay marriage. Hell, I don't support Christianity and I think Bush has the mental agility of a sea cucumber. We all know gays should be allowed to get married. But right now even if Bush does pass something the majority of 37 states, 38 of which are currently against gay marriage under Defence of Marriage acts, have to agree.

From Leviticus, King James version: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

This is the will of god through the holy Bible, period.

So let em marry all they want as long as they don't have sex.

Edit: Uhm wait a minute, a man can't do it with a man like he does it with a woman unless... so it's ok that I.. with my woman... acording to the bible??

the bible also says lots of wacky shit about when you can and can't stone people. they're more like guidlines than actual rules

DT 21:17

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard."If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son," then "stone him with stones, that he die."

so I guess that means the lot of us are just as bad as gays.

since were quoting the bible i might as well quote the koran:

[7]

Lot said to his people, "You commit such an abomination; no one

in the world has done it before! "You practice sex with the men,

instead of the women. Indeed, you are a transgressing people."

[26]

"Do you have sex with the males, of all the people? "You forsake

the wives that your Lord has created for you! Indeed, you are

transgressing people."

[18]

We have cited in this Quran every kind of example, but the human

being is the most argumentative creature.

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Edit: Uhm wait a minute, a man can't do it with a man like he does it with a woman unless... so it's ok that I.. with my woman... acording to the bible??

they are talking about the butt

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the bible also says lots of wacky shit about when you can and can't stone people. they're more like guidlines than actual rules.

Like all good westerners we choose what parts are rules and what are guidelines. What parts to beleive in and what parts to change.

Half measures I call it and will be judged by god as such.

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they are talking about the butt

Rofl!

You can't be "productive" if you do it with a womans butt now can you? God is not in favor of bun fun, felatio or hairy palms no matter who you do it with, look what happened to Onan that non pruductive dumbkoppf! [Genesis 38:XX]

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butt != vagina

Interesting. Which scientific researches do you base this thesis on? As long as you can't give me 20 lines of mathematical formulas and at least 3 quotes from the bible I won't believe you. :roll:

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And why does this all-knowing all-loving God care how I, a simple mortal, get my jollies? I mean, c'mon. There are more pressing issues.

Because, in the end, your mortal soul is the only important issue there is.

And your soul is sentenced to eternety with god or with the fallen one, depending on you're actions in this life.

No matter how insignificant those actions and thoughts may apear to you they are what defines you before god.

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Because, in the end, your mortal soul is the only important issue there is...

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Your beliefs not ours, maybe some, but not mine!

I agree with my colleageue DD

Some indeed.

Without a god there is no free will.

Without a god every deed that we consider evil is just another moral perspective.

Without a god you’re life serve no purpose but what you make up.

Without a soul when you die you’re just a memory that is fading.

Even if I could prove the existence of god to you I wouldn't, because that would deprave you of the choice of faith that is necessary to bring you to god.

Only the weak can't bare the thought of a non-existant higher being. You can still live a meaning full, fun, happy life not believeing in a god. Anyways, you keep believeing in fear, I'm happy knowing you're worried about going to hell from about everything you do, and I'm not. HAH!

BTW, I have free will (isn't that what most bibles say too?). I consider good and bad a moral (social) perspective, and it doesn't bother me at all. I'm happy knowing my life is what I make it up to be, and isn't that what religions say, life is what you make it (then you're judged and if you touched yourself you're a bad person and go to hell die and burn forever!)? And if my "soul" which I don't believe in, is just a memory, then why would I care? I would be DEAD!

I respect people with faith. Of the many self-improvements i've made in life, faith is still the one thing I that seems out of my reach. Props to those who have it. Boo to those that try to force it upon other people.

DD if you think believing in a god is to live in fear I understand why you patronize those with faith.

All religion is based on free will, without the belief in the existence of something more then the scientifically proved physical world, free will would not exist.

Free will is a belief, just like the belief in a god or a soul.

You can’t and never will scientifically prove its existence.

To beleive in it's existance is creating an illusion to comfort you. And I guess thats what you call being "weak", no?

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Your irony wins the thread sir.

Either the common sense of over 95% of earth’s human populations is wrong, and the reason that we know of god is to create a purpose in an existence without.

Or god exists and you’re purpose is to find out if you have the faith in his existence and can control you’re actions to his will.

If god doesn’t exist I don’t see a reason to feel or act according to empathy.

If I kidnap rape and kill little girls and get away with it, what does it matter?

Sure the little girls would suffer terribly and so would their close ones but why should I care? Because my actions don’t increase my species population? Why care about a species amongst thousands of others in an existence without a purpose?

Because it makes you feel angry? Without anyone knowing or ever know who did it why should I care what you feel?

Without a god, and using only cold reasoning, the only true purpose is that all my actions should be to my own amusement, curiosity and benefit, no reason for anything else. No reason at all.