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War of the Worlds....

  • Crackerjack
  • June 29, 2005 at 10:49 PM
  • Mazy
    • July 6, 2005 at 9:40 AM
    • #41

    A while ago there was a pretty mature film review program on danish TV. Back then I was young and naive, and every time the reviewer gave the american action movies, that I thought were great at the time, bad reviews I just stamped him as a moron (Because who could possibliy hate generic american action movies ). However later I have realized that he was pretty much always right. Now theres nothing but crappy reviewers left, so you pretty much have to count on others, wheter movies are worth seeing.

    Buh

  • GrayFox
    • July 6, 2005 at 10:30 AM
    • #42
    Quote from Kosmo

    Never trust any reviewer since they are prettymuch bunch of snobs with their cherry and cigars. Here is Finland we have this short review program on tv called 'Projektori' they usually review movies at theaters every week, and EVERY time me and my cousin see that and it has a artsy fartsy art flick on it, they usually give it the highest reviews, once they actually said that they would have given the movie points over the scale because it was so good and it was some mexican art picture about some mother just sitting on a beach and telling stories, so they much be brain dead or they take loads of acid and watch the movies.So, if you have to read action movie reviews, then take the score and double it, the you are closer to the truth.

    OMG yes, Projektori sucks so bad.

  • Kosmo
    • July 6, 2005 at 10:42 AM
    • #43

    I have noticed that the best thing to do is to just watch the movies, I know everybody bashed Alone in the Dark by Uwe Boll and I knew that Uwe is a steaming pile of doodoo, but I watched the movie and yes it sucked balls. But I usually watch around 2-4 movies per week, usually rent or pick a dvd from my friend who is a movie fanatic and collector, very rarely I don't see a movie because some review or some of my friend tought it sucked, I just watch the movies even tho my gut instinct says they are true.

    People should see the must see movies like Matrix and it's crappy sequels because they are must see to know what the hell people are talking about.

  • RD
    • July 6, 2005 at 3:35 PM
    • #44
    Quote from Mazy

    Back then I was young and naive

    U STILL ARE=)

    Anyways, about WOTW, its definitely a good movie, but when watching it i felt like it didnt give me what i wanted. The tripods are awesome and the sounds they make too, then why didnt they put more tripods in it, why didnt they show cities being destroyed by tripods. For example (SPOILER COMING), the scene at the lake with the boat, and the tripod coming over the hills. I thought it was gonna be sweet, but then Tom cruise steps on the boat and sails away from the action JESUS. Its just evrytime something big is happening spielberg decides to go to some backplace nobody cares about where theres just one alien in the distance shooting beams. At the end where the the soldiers were driving with tanks and jeeps and choppers to the tripods, steven again decides not to show any of the combat and just some cheap explosions over the hills.

    It was more about war of the towns and abandoned hills than war of the world, just didnt feel like there was a big war going on. /rd frustrates wants more tripod action

    That scene where the reporter shows some footage of lotsa tripods destroying a city, thats what the movie shouldve been about. Steven ruined it

  • kleinluka
    • July 6, 2005 at 6:15 PM
    • #45

    I liked it a lot. One of the main letdowns was that it felt very hummm incomplete ? short ? cutoff?

    SPOILERS AHEAD

    the movie had this huge buildup with cruise escaping from the aliens and saving his kids while he's at it, constantly on the run... while the aliens slowly took over. i was expecting a similar buildup for the end of the movie. then all of a sudden BOOM VIRUS INFECTS THE ALIENS. BOOM, ALIENS ARE DEAD. BOOM THE END.

    i dunno. it felt very rushed. Overall top notch movie though. Probably the best SFX I've seen in some time.

  • skdr
    • July 6, 2005 at 7:09 PM
    • #46
    Quote from kleinluka

    the movie had this huge buildup with cruise escaping from the aliens and saving his kids while he's at it, constantly on the run... while the aliens slowly took over. i was expecting a similar buildup for the end of the movie. then all of a sudden BOOM VIRUS INFECTS THE ALIENS. BOOM, ALIENS ARE DEAD. BOOM THE END.

    QFT. Ending was like "DOH! It's over?"

  • GrayFox
    • July 6, 2005 at 7:54 PM
    • #47
    Quote from RD

    why didnt they put more tripods in it, why didnt they show cities being destroyed by tripods......At the end where the the soldiers were driving with tanks and jeeps and choppers to the tripods, steven again decides not to show any of the combat and just some cheap explosions over the hills.

    It was more about war of the towns and abandoned hills than war of the world, just didnt feel like there was a big war going on. /rd frustrates wants more tripod action

    That scene where the reporter shows some footage of lotsa tripods destroying a city, thats what the movie shouldve been about. Steven ruined it

    Destroying cities and big land marks would have been very original, I agree

    I think not showing the destruction made it more intense, like in the hill scene. It was like it was too horrible to watch and the camera was afraid of showing it to us. Brilliant IMO.

    Perhaps a movie called Independence Day might suit you better.

    And the movie was about war of the worlds from the Ferrier's point of view.

  • Jezpuh
    • July 6, 2005 at 8:14 PM
    • #48

    RD likes xXx and The Day After Tomorrow.

  • silver
    • July 6, 2005 at 9:23 PM
    • #49
    Quote from Jezpuh

    RD likes xXx and The Day After Tomorrow.

    RD sucks

  • RD
    • July 6, 2005 at 9:43 PM
    • #50

    Lolz, u guys hate saving private ryan

    I liked independence day about as much as WotW , theyre both kinda shallow in their own way. Didnt it bother u that there wasnt a single fight with an alien in WotW? There were only 2 types of alien, the tripod and their pilots. The pilots only once got out to fight man to man and then the 3 hollywood stars in the cellar decided to evade them. It couldve been a great movie, now its just good.

  • Jezpuh
    • July 6, 2005 at 9:51 PM
    • #51
    Quote from RD

    Lolz, u guys hate saving private ryan

    I love Band of Brothers.

  • GrayFox
    • July 7, 2005 at 7:46 AM
    • #52
    Quote from RD

    Lolz, u guys hate saving private ryanI liked independence day about as much as WotW , theyre both kinda shallow in their own way. Didnt it bother u that there wasnt a single fight with an alien in WotW? There were only 2 types of alien, the tripod and their pilots. The pilots only once got out to fight man to man and then the 3 hollywood stars in the cellar decided to evade them. It couldve been a great movie, now its just good.

    You have completely missed the point of the movie.

  • RD
    • July 7, 2005 at 9:14 AM
    • #53

    ATOMROFL

    Dont tell me theres a deeper meaning to WotW :roll: What was it then, a family tragedy where the whole family survives magically?

    Have u seen the original, where are the saucers?

  • Kosmo
    • July 7, 2005 at 10:02 AM
    • #54

    I suggest that you take up and read Alan Moores League Extraordinary Gentlemen book 2, it is a straight copy of H.G. Wells WotW novel, but it kicks ass because it has the best bunch of "superheroes" ever.

    What did they say in the movie? "They have been planning this for million years" and still their plans didn't include the possibility of a deadly virus? Just like the super intelligent aliens that master the inter stellar travel in Signs but didn't notice how earth is one fucking wet planet.

    Man, I'm saying humanity doesn't have anything to worry about, these alien invaders are fucking stupid as sticks.

  • GrayFox
    • July 7, 2005 at 11:22 AM
    • #55
    Quote from RD

    Dont tell me theres a deeper meaning to WotW :roll:

    Simply put, it wasn't about the aliens destroying earth, it was about the family trying to survive it and it wouldn't have been a very interesting movie if they had died half way through it. This is mostly a science fiction drama, not an action film.

    Realism doesn't make a movie better or worse, IMO (except for the acting). Like in Signs the aliens were total idiots, the water being their bane was stupid but I loved every second of the movie. It's a drama film in an unusual setting, not a realistic depiction of an alien invasion.

  • Kosmo
    • July 7, 2005 at 11:40 AM
    • #56
    Quote from GrayFox

    Realism doesn't make a movie better or worse, IMO (except for the acting). Like in Signs the aliens were total idiots, the water being their bane was stupid but I loved every second of the movie. It's a drama film in an unusual setting, not a realistic depiction of an alien invasion.

    Yeah Signs was a great movie, but after the movie you had ery stupid feeling for watching the movie, kinda like the Village, another ghastly thing that horrible wannabe director did, he has a thing, he does great movies but always manages to cut the movie in to a feeling of that you'd just been robbed or something.

    That is why I think all Aliens movies are so great, those aliens don't take shit from nobody, they are vicious and doesn't seem to have any kind of weakness, and no matter what you do, you can't get rid of them and that is what makes them great to watch several times and keeps them great year after year.

    But I definedly agree with you, any movie with scifi setting or aliens from outerspace AND realism is sucking so big time, you just can't make a fantasy flick and just put realism in it because it is all guesswork, guesswork on how the writer does things, NOT how the aliens do things or how humans act on these kinds of situations, it's like Spock, he is just as logical as the writer of the episode/movie is and not the most logical creature in the universe.

  • RD
    • July 7, 2005 at 12:15 PM
    • #57

    realism is believability. And yes, it does make movies better. Imagine the tripods having no physics (ala bf2), and looking cheap CGI. Luckily the creators have tried to make them as realistic as possible and they own because of it.

    Quote

    Simply put, it wasn't about the aliens destroying earth

    All i can say is atomrofl.

    If saving private Ryan was about a yankee evading all combat, would it still be as good?

  • Kosmo
    • July 7, 2005 at 12:23 PM
    • #58
    Quote from RD

    realism is believability. And yes, it does make movies better. Imagine the tripods having no physics (ala bf2), and looking cheap CGI. Luckily the creators have tried to make them as realistic as possible and they own because of it.

    Obviously you don't get what kind of realism we are talking about here, not visual realism. Behavioral realism, realism on actions and on the story, look everything comes down to the age old wisdom of "everything happens because it is convinient for the writer", he didn't like invent the presonalities of every alien, build anatomy and history for them and a social structure and run a simulation on a supercomputer to determine where they would move, how they would move and why they would move, would they crack under pressure and would they feel guilty, does their religion afflict things and would different strategic solutions take affect them trying to minimize the casualties.

    These kinds of things are the realism factor that matter, not how "realistic" you think they looked, fuck, you haven't even seen a marsian tripod and you think it looked realistic, what the hell is with that? Physics? How the hell do you figure how much the tripods weight and did they move according to physics, you are just kidding yourself.

  • GrayFox
    • July 7, 2005 at 12:31 PM
    • #59
    Quote from Pericolos0

    rd is right and signs is a horrible movie that is about god and aliens with amazing space technology that somehow forget earth is a wet planet

    You are either joking or being as ignorant as RD.

  • Kosmo
    • July 7, 2005 at 12:38 PM
    • #60
    Quote from Pericolos0

    but really signs is a horrible movie

    Amen to that

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