[CS1.6] Dust 2 2020

That's a pretty good looking dust2 version. Won't comment on the layout changes, but I was hoping the csgo team would make a return to this particular look with the revamped dust 2

Imagine playing

Quote from Radu

On 12/18/2019 at 4:43 AM, Radu said: That's a pretty good looking dust2 version. Won't comment on the layout changes, but I was hoping the csgo team would make a return to this particular look with the revamped dust 2

I was hoping for something like District. God damn that map had a vibe.

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1 hour ago, Interfearance said: Imagine playing

I was hoping for something like District. God damn that map had a vibe.

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Is that not just the same theme as the original CSGO dust2, there's only so far you can go with the war torn middle eastern city theme.

Nice funky layout ! And it looks really cool :))

Yeah, this is fucking dope

This is impressive, pushing Goldsrc to the limit… I would only argue with the draping in B, the poles are too in the way of Ts rushing out of tunnels, and the Egyptian symbols seem out of place. Tunnels is a bit too dark.

Quote from fewseb

On 12/27/2019 at 4:43 AM, fewseb said: Is that not just the same theme as the original CSGO dust2, there's only so far you can go with the war torn middle eastern city theme.

I think you'll find the original basis for the map was Morocco, which although is close to the middle-east, it's north-west African coastal area.

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3 hours ago, Mitch Mitchell said: I think you'll find the original basis for the map was Morocco, which although is close to the middle-east, it's north-west African coastal area.

The original CSGO dust2 was not set in Morocco, it was very clearly going for the "Iraqistan" vibe as evident by the mosque on dust 1 and the various signs and graffiti in arabic across both maps. Also why they used the IDF as ct models. Mirage is also based off Morocco and on that map they used frensh and arabic to get they point across, but also didnt use the IDF as their ct models. Current CSGO Dust 2 is very clearly base on Morocco.

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On 2/26/2020 at 7:13 PM, fewseb said: The original CSGO dust2 was not set in Morocco, it was very clearly going for the "Iraqistan" vibe as evident by the mosque on dust 1 and the various signs and graffiti in arabic across both maps. Also why they used the IDF as ct models. Mirage is also based off Morocco and on that map they used frensh and arabic to get they point across, but also didnt use the IDF as their ct models. Current CSGO Dust 2 is very clearly base on Morocco.

We might be talking cross-purposes here, but I've re-read your original comments and I think I have confused what you wrote with something else somehow. Apps for the misunderstanding.

The original map of de_Dust2 going back to the very first iteration is based on Morocco.

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2 hours ago, Mitch Mitchell said: very first iteration is based on Morocco.

Not even close, the Original dust was based off screenshots for one of the versions of TF2. Which itself was based of a generic middle eastern theme.

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On 2/27/2020 at 11:50 PM, fewseb said: Not even close, the Original dust was based off screenshots for one of the versions of TF2. Which itself was based of a generic middle eastern theme.

I've looked into this at length now, and cannot find anything to support the idea that De_Dust2 is located in the middle-east, but on the other side of Africa.

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1 hour ago, Mitch Mitchell said: I've looked into this at length now, and cannot find anything to support the idea that De_Dust2 is located in the middle-east, but on the other side of Africa.

OK where specifically did you find information that the original dust2 by Dave Johnson was set in Morocco. We know the Original CSGO and Source version are set in "generic middle eastern country" because of the poorly translated Arabian text found on both versions. What about the Original dust2 is anyway makes it seem as if its set in Morocco

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On 2/26/2020 at 7:13 PM, fewseb said: The original CSGO dust2 was not set in Morocco, it was very clearly going for the "Iraqistan" vibe as evident by the mosque on dust 1 and the various signs and graffiti in arabic across both maps. Also why they used the IDF as ct models. Mirage is also based off Morocco and on that map they used frensh and arabic to get they point across, but also didnt use the IDF as their ct models. Current CSGO Dust 2 is very clearly base on Morocco.

Mirage uses SAS CTs, which are UK, not French. (I can remember the GIGN only used in Cache tbh)

The point to determine the location is not in the Arab language but French: France colonised a big chunk of Africa but mostly the western coast… looking at architecture you can really think only of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia as reference. A quick search of “Morocco/Algeria/Tunisia fortress” shows the closest architectural similarities are with Morocco really, although they (unfortunately) didn’t capture any distinguishable landmark from that beautiful country and overall is a very loose adaptation.

According to logic, the IDF shouldn’t have anything to do in ex-French colonies because they are a continent’s away. It made some sense before*, as was clearly set in neighbouring countries, but the current choice of CT team doesn’t make sense, I think Valve kept IDF just for consistency (what players are used to) and not for fidelity.

*in reality they should have never wasted time on the IDF force, when is the last time you heard of Israeli forces support any NATO operation? Considering the number of maps set in Italy they could have rather created models for that.

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26 minutes ago, blackdog said: Mirage uses SAS CTs, which are UK, not French. (I can remember the GIGN only used in Cache tbh)

The point to determine the location is not in the Arab language but French: France colonised a big chunk of Africa but mostly the western coast… looking at architecture you can really think only of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia as reference. A quick search of “Morocco/Algeria/Tunisia fortress” shows the closest architectural similarities are with Morocco really, although they (unfortunately) didn’t capture any distinguishable landmark from that beautiful country and overall is a very loose adaptation.

According to logic, the IDF shouldn’t have anything to do in ex-French colonies because they are a continent’s away. It made some sense before*, as was clearly set in neighbouring countries, but the current choice of CT team doesn’t make sense, I think Valve kept IDF just for consistency (what players are used to) and not for fidelity.

*in reality they should have never wasted time on the IDF force, when is the last time you heard of Israeli forces support any NATO operation? Considering the number of maps set in Italy they should have created the models for that.

Alright and yeah I agree. Mirage is obviously set in Morocco, new dust2 is set in Morocco, the only thing im contesting is that the original CSGO version was set in a generic Arabian nation, the other guy thinks that both it and the original 1.6 dust2 were also set in Morocco.

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On 3/8/2020 at 11:27 PM, fewseb said: Alright and yeah I agree. Mirage is obviously set in Morocco, new dust2 is set in Morocco, the only thing im contesting is that the original CSGO version was set in a generic Arabian nation, the other guy thinks that both it and the original 1.6 dust2 were also set in Morocco.

This is a Valve response (Jess Cliffe, co-creator of Counter-Strike) to the question as to whether the game/level/map was originally based in Morocco, and that bringing the new revamped version of de_Dust2 was attempting to return to that location as best it could.

Unless DJ himself wishes to get on a train from Suffolk to my yard and tell me otherwise, I'm going with this as the basis for my answer.

As always, I humbly stand to be corrected - and again, I do apologize for my earlier misunderstanding.