Submerged

    I don't think just by addig rooms, it would make it much better. If you really don't want to start it again, please, somehow, you need to transfor those corridors into rooms, or make them wider. The red lightning is just a bad idea, and I don't think you should do it. And I don't think there are red lightning in 'real submarines'. Here's "some" ideas:

    Definatly looks better, but please, use a yellowISH lighning, that would make it less claustrophobic.And one small thing:

    Way too many props there. Just remove some, not all, but some.

    Oh, and here:

    This looks like a big stair for me. Please try to make it a normal room, with stairs in the doorways.

    I made sure to add more rather than less so the map doesn't feel empty for the playtest. I'll see how it works out and change accordingly.

    Making a map that's got that much cover, especially when I ran around it, lots of the cover is just not needed and adds a lot of clutter to the map of which isn't needed.

    What I'd recommend for cover is only placing it in locations where the action really happens. And even then, it should be used sparingly. As stereotypical as it might be for me to say this, look at in-game maps and see how they use cover. Heck, you can even try and mold a part of a level around a large object of cover.

    As for the lighting, I think the color is a bit strong. maybe try toning it down a bit. Blue is nice, but I think a darker shade would suit the environment better.

    I do hope this turns out nice, I'd love to try it once it's complete! :D

    OK, I get it. But I don't know what to remove and what to keep. The only way this map has been tested is with bots. Which doesn't give me much info about anything cover related. There will be a playtest on Friday, and I'll see where to remove cover.


    Or do you reckon I should just bite the bullet and cut some cover for the playtest?

    It might get in the way of game play preventing you from getting more useful feedback. Also you know you can make your own cover with brushes instead of letting valve's props shape your level's game play.

    But in the end that cover will have to make sense. My decision right now is that I will cut some props for the playtest and see how it hoes.

    Where are the chokepoints of the map? Anything that is T-Controlled at the start behind these areas should have minimal cover (For Deathmatch mode). That's the best advice I can give you without knowing where the chokepoints are yet. :)

    Cut down some props for the playtest, and a few other minor tweaks. I'll remake B site looks tomorrow, which will be the final thing done to this map before the playtest.

    Sorry if the marked radar is confusing, I'm not good at these types of things lol.

    And I'm pretty sure the CT sight line at mid is a bit problematic, as it gives CTs quite a bit of mid control, as well as the ability to pick Ts off, off the bat, which I'm pretty sure shouldn't be the case.

    Last update before the playtest. Can't wait! The playtest will happen at 2PM CST. Type: "connect can.TopHATTwaffle.com; password se" in console to connect. (When it's time of course lol)

    B Before:

    B After:

    Playtest was successful. It was fun, but also CT sided, mainly because of the long sightlines.

    Changes:

    Removed long sightlines at both A and B entrances

    Pushed Ts back

    Removed Control Room, as it was too OP

    Added more cover to B site

    Made the map slowly flood if the bomb detonates

    Other small improvements


    Mid will be redone in the next update, as it's still very awkward for CTs that decide to rush there.

    Many layout changes based on feedback from the playtest. There's still a lot to do but I thought I'd show you all how it's all going. I am also beginning to make the theme more apparent and making the player feel as if they're playing on a level set underwater, not some boxy rooms with sand outside. But for now it is boxy rooms with boring sand outside ?

    Workshop link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi…7163&revision=1

    Spoiler

    Tunnel looking out into the ocean (there's another one next to it, unfortunately they have to be blocked off by an ugly wall, because of the annoyance of being able to see your enemy but not shoot them.):

    Radar:

    It's been a long time since my last post, mostly cause of playtest delays, but it finally happened on the 2nd. I've been working since on layout changes and small improvements. Still quite a bit to go before another playtest but I want to share since it's been so long.

    Workshop Link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi…/?id=1783407163

    Spoiler

    Changes:

    • Removed double sliding doors at A
    • Made one of the CT entrances to A wider
    • Mid-T-ish to A Main connector remade into a proper Mid to A Main
    • Removed Ladder at Mid to B Main
    • Lengthened Mid to A connector
    • Changed all lights into nice, non-obstructing floor lights
    • Pushed CTs back since they got everywhere quickly
    • Many other small changes that all contribute to the quality of the map

    Spoiler

    Radar:

    B

    A

    CT (still bland, really have to do something here soon)

    Mid

    T

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