Deathloop - New Arkane Lyon's game

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16 minutes ago, El Moroes said: Hey guys, let me present you our new baby

More baby pictures/videos please!

Oh yeahh ! \o/ I hope you'll enjoy this teaser too !!

Frankly couldn’t really understand how the game is supposed to work. If is pure SP, a Versus…

the trailer gave me a deja-vu with “The Witness” from Love Death Robots.

Arkane doesn’t seem to get a title wrong so curious to see actual gameplay

Yeah, really like the style and atmosphere. But yeah, as blackdog mentioned, wouldn't hurt to know a little bit more about what kind of game it is.

Intrigued.

Looking forward to the first details for this thing! Arkane is my favorite studio -- really happy they still get IP freedom and aren't being delegated "finisher" duties for other Bethesda games. The island environment is gorgeous and I can't wait to see what the art direction geniuses can do with it in real-time.

Nice, I wanna know more about it. What's the island about? Is it a 1v1 game? SP with MP elements?

Color me curious, will be keeping an eye out. Very talented studio so I hope it's good!

More details at Quakecon?

With all the Arkane news recently, I rewatched the trailer and I might have figured it out or at least here's my theory:

So the obvious things are that the day is repeating over and over, but the characters retain their memories of every day even if they die... and as stated in the trailer, one is trying to break the cycle while the other is trying to protect it. We can also see in the trailer that one of the characters learned from their previous deaths and avoided the same scenario during the next try. But if things are gonna truly change in this loop, then there have to be some means of killing other characters/targets in a permanent way.

Now, my theory is that we're gonna play as both characters, Colt and Juliana, switching between them with every repeated day and then fighting against our own playthrough similarly to like a racing game where you can see your ghost car. Imagine you go about doing a mission as Colt, making certain moves, killing certain NPCs, basically a whole sequence of events... and then you play as the other character, Juliana, and a "recording" of the previous character, Colt, is used in the world and you can plan around what you did as that character. Then, when you switch characters again, you know that you used the other character, Juliana, to kill Colt during a specific point so you then have to avoid that. It's gonna be yourself vs yourself, but it does sound complicated.

I have no idea how you would go about structuring this. However, if the two characters can disrupt certain events in the day, this is the unexpected twist that we're going to experience when playing as the other. Or maybe I read into the trailer a bit too much and it's not like that at all.

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37 minutes ago, Radu said: With all the Arkane news recently, I rewatched the trailer and I might have figured it out or at least here's my theory:

So the obvious things are that the day is repeating over and over, but the characters retain their memories of every day even if they die... and as stated in the trailer, one is trying to break the cycle while the other is trying to protect it. We can also see in the trailer that one of the characters learned from their previous deaths and avoided the same scenario during the next try. But if things are gonna truly change in this loop, then there have to be some means of killing other characters/targets in a permanent way. Now, my theory is that we're gonna play as both characters, switching between them with every repeated day and then fighting against our own ghost similarly to like a racing game where you can see your ghost car. Imagine you go about doing a mission, making certain moves, killing certain NPCs, basically a whole sequence of events... and then you play as the other character and a "demo" of the previous character is used in the world and you can plan around what you did as that character. Then, when you switch characters again, you know that you used the other character to kill you during a specific point so you then have to avoid that. It's gonna be yourself vs yourself, but it does sound complicated. I have no idea how you would go about structuring this. However, if the two characters can disrupt certain events in the day, this is the unexpected twist that we're going to experience when playing as the other. Or maybe I read into the trailer a bit too much and it's not like that at all.

Or maybe its the crossing ? Fighting with another player throughout the story.

I always assumed this game is going to be multi player… really curious to see how it turns out if anything but the mechanic

Looks awesome. Can't wait to play it, I'm intrigued enough that will pick it up day 1. Love Arkane games.

Ah, so here it is:

Ready for the kicker? Julianna is also a playable character. While you will experience the main campaign as Colt, you also have the option to infiltrate another player’s game as Julianna and do some hunting. But keep in mind, that means someone else could be lurking in your campaign, waiting for the chance to strike. This is Arkane’s approach to an immersive multiplayer experience, where the focus is still on the main story, but there is unpredictability around every corner. “We felt this style of multiplayer, where we give people the option to play as the main antagonist, is a great way to really ramp up the level of trickery, tension, chaos and just plain unpredictability that we love in games like this,” explains Bakaba. “We feel that our game systems uniquely position us to allow for the confrontation between two players to be one not just of skill, but of wits, creativity and an open display of your personality.” If this PvP element is disabled, Julianna will still appear your game from time to time, hunting you, but she will be AI-controlled. The developers at Arkane Lyon built this system with a hybrid approach in mind. “The focus is on the campaign and the story," Bakaba says. "And that campaign can be played with Julianna controlled only by the AI, or – and this is our recommendation – by a mix of A.I. and random players to experience the range of unpredictability and chaos that Julianna is capable of." Both Colt and Julianna will have access to a powerful range of customizable weapons and abilities, and you can outfit them to suit your preferred playstyle. According to Bakaba, “While both characters will have access to some of the same main tools, there are also some major differences between their abilities. While Colt can make use of hacking devices and the possibility of returning when he dies, Julianna can take on the appearance of any NPC, and all of the island’s inhabitants are on her side. Colt is trying to accomplish his goals, whatever it takes, and Julianna is there to have fun. She wants Colt to keep playing her game. Julianna is about playing with fire and flair, and cares more about enjoying the ‘game’ than about winning every encounter.”

Some originality in the AAA space... what is this, someone save the date!

Well, the game looks cool and it's not a common concept, but I don't know if it's THAT original. Dark Souls did the invading a decade ago. Even the recent Doom Eternal had some similar feature. But it definitely stood out from the crowd. Everything else in the show looked good too, but so generic (except Little Devil Inside of course and Stray). And a shit load of particles.

There's more details on Bethesda's website: https://bethesda.net/en/article/7u3…ext-gen-details

This looks incomprehensible and unsellable. Like an extra noisy Dishonored game

Maybe I need to see more footage, but the art style doesn’t seem very appealing IMO and the footage seems pretty clunky. What is with the people in random masks? Nothing seems to fit together

This could be proven wrong, but sometimes I think Arkane gets a little too “high concept” for gamers. Sometimes it’s great like Dishonored, but in a case like this I doubt it works out.

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1 hour ago, FMPONE said: This looks incomprehensible and unsellable. Like an extra noisy Dishonored game

Maybe I need to see more footage, but the art style doesn’t seem very appealing IMO and the footage seems pretty clunky. What is with the people in random masks? Nothing seems to fit together

This could be proven wrong, but sometimes I think Arkane gets a little too “high concept” for gamers. Sometimes it’s great like Dishonored, but in a case like this I doubt it works out.

Honestly, I disagree. I think the 60-70s aesthetic that they're going for is pretty appealing nowadays, maybe even making a comeback similar to how the 80s have. If you've followed popular media in the recent years, we've had films like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Bohemian Rhapsody, Rocketman, The Nice Guys, The Man from U.N.C.L.E. etc. And in the games industry we've got titles like Wolfenstein: The New Order & The New Colossus, as well as the old classic No One Lives Forever. So there's definitely a high appeal for this period just like there is for the 50s or 80s, each with their own quirks.

Yeah, the early 70's aesthetic is criminally underused in games.

Btw, you sould all watch Black Dynamite, specially if you got some good bud lying around your place.

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