Anubis

Quote from Interfearance

18 hours ago, Interfearance said: You are the only reason I started using ref b textures, there is no point in scaling and messing around with measure wall textures to look good when they will be replaced later anyway.

Thats a really good move! It will allow you to focus on the geometry only and you know, grayboxes can be very beautiful! No need to worry about nodraws, alligning texture faces and having no worries about consistency in colors. Its super nice.

Map is too big.. Map is too small.. CT can't play agressive.. Map is too T sided.. CT can be too agressive.. Map is too CT sided..

100 years later and 1.000.342.453 playtests later there is a new update for you guys. Hopefully the map is now more balanced and more fun to play ?[Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/mNyx6T8.jpg]

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Hey guess who is back

So I had another playtest, still too CT sided. Basicly the team controlling mid was controlling the whole map and that was CT most of the time. Now I seperated bridge from canal and made the map alot more T friendly. I hope the next playtest will be the final one. [Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/YInV748.jpg]Oh, and @jakuza made some really great assets for me to work with: (still very WIP though!)[Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/WMIqrXo.jpg][Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/zJPatAl.jpg]

@MikeGon good point, will see what I can do. I think stuff will defenitly change during the art pass

Its been a while since I posted in here.@jd40 is now on board, working on the enviorment art on B site. There have also been some changes in the layout aswell and because of that we have done some more playtesting. Bombsite B have had a huge overhaul and also the timings have drasticly changed with a new CT spawn that provides slower timings into midle. All in all I am happy with the layout for what it is and its time to fully focus on the enviorment art. In the meanwhile I am doing a first art pass on T spawn by using @jakuza his lovely assets he have been working on lately.[Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/kYjZbGK.jpg][Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/5llEZtN.jpg][Blocked Image: https://i.imgur.com/CORpjJE.jpg]

Quote from Byron

19 hours ago, Byron said: from running around I think the weakest part of the map is mid rn, especially the mid connector to B. Ts with mid to B control essentially have control of CT and thus all of the CT enterances to B. I know simplicity is good, but I think such an important part of the map such as mid needs to be a bit more complex than just a single hallway with 2 routes to either site. I don't know what exactly to change but mid just seems flawed. Ofc this is just from a run around, if playtests are fine then ignore my advice

Well... we have playtested this map 15 times. Mid was always too complicated because of.. reasons. The balance have shifted alot, but was at the end CT sided and now with the new timings with T having abit more of a advantage on mid bridge and canal it feels right. Not sure if there is a real mid, guess there is a kind of double mid, or perhaps two routes to each site, with some more dynamic features, but guess calling it mid sounds most logic, atleast thats how we defined it during the playtests.

The map is abit different from standard, though its easy to learn and I think it needs time and some teamwork (especially as T) to master it. Mid might looks simple, but it has some dynamic features and especially CTs got quick rotation options to always backup their teammates. I guess you should play a few matches on it to find out and learn and master the map Controlling mid on this map is taking a huge advantage over your opponent for both teams, so its quite important. CT own abit more of control on the map, but this can be shifted easyly, Though with the quick CT rotations it remains risky for T's and grenades are advised. For an example T's splitting to B, but not owning the bridge/canal means CT can rotate from there easyly and getting behind them. T's splitting mid/A is a risk of losing the advantage of 5 vs 2, but when succeeding they get lots of control arround A and can even decide to smoke off A and go B/CT while taking a risk though. So as a T do you decide to split up or go full force trough the main path and remain control from there. I guess I provide a 'simple' layout where the player can try out different playstyles and tactics, I guess thats what you want when creating a CS:GO map.

Not sure if this clearifies things up for you or not, guess you should experience it. You might be right, more playtests should be done to know for sure. I guess a map always has room for improvement so.. though this mid is the core of the map and everything is based arround that from the start.