[CS:GO] de_border (W.I.P.)

I think the problem with the name is that its not realistic. Aside from the obvious connection to Nazi Germany, modern day Germany just wouldnt form a "forth Reich" as it is. I dont know if you ever talked or listened to a German before, but generally they see third Reich as a stain on their history. Unless your story was that an extremist right-wing faction somehow conquered Germany and wanted to go back to the glory of the old Reichs.

I mean we are also talking about a situation, where Germany, one of the EUs biggest proponents just up and leaves the EU, apparently also making such a big deal out of it, all of the EU stops being allies with Germany.

If you want to be realistic about this, Germany in the modern day, would never leave the EU, but even if they did, nobody is going to support bring back Reich iconography and changing the flag to an iron cross, the people of Modern Germany have no reason to want to go back to Reichs, The country is too much of an economic powerhouse to fall so far back.

Lastly, I assume you would want your map to have a chance of being put in game right? Because valve isnt going to except this map as it is for 2 reasons

1. The obvious Nazi connections

2. How unrealistic of a situation that this map is set in. CSGO is set in the modern world, nothing about it is particularly fantastical. The amount of cultural and political shifts it would take for Germany to come even close to what you're trying to portray would have massive affect on the rest of the world, which isnt supported at all by any other map or piece of media related to csgo.

I dont think you should mix the present and past like this. The German Empire and Third Reich do hold a certain fascination, but portraying a historical theme and mixing in historic symbols with a modern setting are 2 different things that in this case come with very different connotations. If you want to create something using imagery from those times, it should either be strictly historical or some kind of dystopian setting. Using this imagery in a way that doesnt reflect upon why these are seen as some if not the darkest times in european history implies either a complete lack of understanding of the topic or even worse, willful ignorance and romanticization. Wether such a theme actually fits CS:GO is a different question, but just the way you are handling the theme feels weird and out of touch with the underlying topic.

@fewsebIn other words valve doesn't generally accept fictitious themes or ones linked to Nazi germany. Weird historical flex but I digress.

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44 minutes ago, Interfearance said: @fewsebIn other words valve doesn't generally accept fictitious themes or ones linked to Nazi germany. Weird historical flex but I digress.

Not really what I was saying, like at all.

Obviously you got DoD with Nazi Germany, and every other valve IP is set in a fictitious rendition of the world. Half Life and Portal are set in a Dystopia, the left 4 dead series is post-apocalyptic, team fortress 2 is parody of the real world as it is both currently and decades ago, Ricochet is set in a void in space, Alien Swarm is Science Fiction.

The counter strike series is about the only valve series that is confined to real world limitations, and this map's back story is so ridiculous and unlikely to happen that it could not fit into the real world. If this was TF2, yeah sure it could happen. If this was Left 4 Dead, maybe? Half Life? Why not, Ricochet, who doesn't want to see a forth Reich conquering the great space void. But in counter strike, a game which can be seen as mirroring real life occurrences and society, is grounded heavily in reality (Ignoring how different CS guns are from Real Guns, and how humans react when injured, the craziest it gets is the TAGrenade and the Flying Scoutsman gamemode)

Yeah, I don't know, it just seemed kind of inappropriate for someone with the name "I love the 50s" (no offense) to make a map with iron cross banners all over and signage talking about how we are building up a fourth great German Reich. The map looks pretty, the buildings and snow are especially well done so far, but the allusions to Nazi Germany were just way too far IMO. I think it's a smart move to take the story in a different direction.

@fewsebmy bad I thought you were only talking cs games.

Bro, you are a strong independent woman, you can decide for yourself ?

I think Border sounds pretty dope

Don't see any need for a new topic. Just ask a mod to rename it if you want it to have its new name in the topic title.

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On 5/7/2019 at 9:49 PM, That50'sGuy said: Hi everyone!

Today I'm releasing another update!

Bombsite A has been heavily re-done, and Bombsite B has been temporarily removed for re-design while A-Site gets tested

Feel free to give it a try and leave any feedback: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi…/?id=1713599987

Have a great day! And enjoy this view of the river near A-Site

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I really like what you did here but I think the light color is a little off.

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11 minutes ago, That50'sGuy said: I'm glad to hear that. What about the color do you think needs modifying? Any information helps.

The light has too much greenish-bluish accent in my opinion, sth like sea color. I would move light color closer to white. [Blocked Image: https://img.freedisc.pl/photo/2013034/2/l/winter-night-wallpaper.png]