You Decide Mapcore's Future

Quote from FMPONE

2 minutes ago, FMPONE said: So, enough time has elapsed that we can think about closing the poll soon.

It looks like you guys are clearly: interested in another CS:GO event, interested in another UE4 event, and really intrigued by the 1024x1024 idea. So, we're going to do all of these (eventually)! I think two contests per year is reasonable, personally.

I have a further question:

1) Hostage or bomb defuse? Both?

A new poll ? ahaha

http://www.strawpoll.me/12401066

I think the best option would be the 1024x1024 unit challenge for cs:go and allow any of the official game modes to be used. There are a lot of people that don't want yet another regular cs:go contest.

Quote from Radu

6 minutes ago, Radu said: I think the best option would be the 1024x1024 unit challenge for cs:go and allow any of the official game modes to be used. There are a lot of people that don't want yet another regular cs:go contest.

While I don't think limiting the map size is the best idea for a CS:GO contest, options to vary from a competitive defuse or hostage map would be a good call.

I'd say Hostage or Arms Race, personally. OR, open it up to all game modes but have a 'theme' for the competition, something abstract and open to interpretation like "falling" or "holiday".

Anything but normal defusal, really. The other game modes have been neglected far too long. I like text_fish's idea of working on a more or less abstract theme.

Quote from text_fish

45 minutes ago, text_fish said: I'd say Hostage or Arms Race, personally. OR, open it up to all game modes but have a 'theme' for the competition, something abstract and open to interpretation like "falling" or "holiday".

What do you say of something like "The Deal"? It could be centered around a location where two parties exchange goods. Think of the intro from Vice City or the meeting points from Breaking Bad. Also, people could be ambiguous of what's being exchanged and do something like the case from Pulp Fiction.

Edit* All official game modes, except bomb/defuse.

The problem with Csgo maps right now is the lovely possibility of being in a "operation". 80% of people will try to make a Defuse map with a layout close to the common official competitive maps.

it would be fun to see something fresh.

Quote from 3Dnj

1 hour ago, 3Dnj said: The problem with Csgo maps right now is the lovely possibility of being in a "operation". 80% of people will try to make a Defuse map with a layout close to the common official competitive maps.

it would be fun to see something fresh.

This. I would like to see a contest focused on anything but defuse maps. People will make these anyway and a contest would be a great opportunity to focus on other gamemodes.

Csgo Co-op Strike like in Operation Wildfire.

I think quality community maps for Arms Race (or similar) would be a nice thing. You won't have to spend too much time on the layout and can focus on the visuals instead where - i think - people can learn the most along the way. And i could imagine Valve to implement maps like these into the game, which are not made for the classic competitive game modes.

But please: Wait with the CS contests, until later in 2017. Would be nice to create stuff with (hopefully) new tools.

Quote from 3Dnj

1 hour ago, 3Dnj said: The problem with Csgo maps right now is the lovely possibility of being in a "operation". 80% of people will try to make a Defuse map with a layout close to the common official competitive maps.

it would be fun to see something fresh.

I'd say you are actually more likely to get into an operation with a well-made hostage map because there are just so little available atm.

There might be a lot of clashing in a project like that, specially if you got 5-10 skilled artists and there is a clear contrast between their props cause they have different philosophies. Would work if it was just a regular campaign contest where people form their own teams.

If we're mapping for coop I'd prefer to use L4D2 or something. There's a good reason everyone forgets the two times Valve have tried to make CS coop/narrative.

We could have a co-op themed contest with any games and platforms permitted, such as L4D2, CS:GO, UE4 etc. It could be cool so see what ideas people bring to the table when there are so many possibilities on many different games/engines.

Quote from FMPONE

6 hours ago, FMPONE said: How about a poll to determine if we need another poll?

Democracy-ception

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As I got Black Mesa in one of the latest sales, I voted for that. Still Source accessible to everyone, a bit of a breather from CS themed stuff but still pleasant visuals. Options for MP or SP (I rather do SP eventually).

Still could be something that we put in a 1024x1024 contest.

Didn't vote for UT only because I'd like to work on UE4 but not within the UT frame (although still good experience).

And guys you seriously believe we are getting Source 2 tools for CSGO in the third-fourth quarter? Unless you have insider news I don't think that any of the recent news point to think something like that, the CSGO team in the recent "community" interview talked of implementig only a couple of systems from Source 2. I don't expect any migration to Source 2 renderer before 2018. Doesn't seem they have a team big enough for a project of that entity.