POTUS 2016

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44 minutes ago, D3ads said: Your analogies further prove the point I'm making! You don't know if you will crash your car.. you don't know if you will have a heart attack..You don't know that "everything is going to collapse"... unless it actually happens. Speculation speculation speculation...

Give.

The.

Man.

A.

Chance.

That's it.

Or else you can carry on predicting Doomsday and living in fear about non-existent Hitlers, your choice.. just don't expect others to swallow it.

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my house is on fire, but i want to see where its going with this, will it actually burn down, or does it just say it will

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53 minutes ago, D3ads said: Your analogies further prove the point I'm making! You don't know if you will crash your car.. you don't know if you will have a heart attack..You don't know that "everything is going to collapse"... unless it actually happens. Speculation speculation speculation...

I don't see what your point is over this... we shouldn't prepare ourselves for potential problems because we don't know if they'll happen?

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3 hours ago, D3ads said: Fine but then you or anyone else is protesting against things that haven't happened yet, based on speculation of how you perceive he will handle things. He has just been sworn in, let's perhaps wait till he handles those things badly first maybe? It's like people outside of here protesting against Teresa May because of Brexit, nothing has happened yet! Actions speak louder than words...

When you see the guy and how he managed to get elected it's enough proofs for me, building a wall to "protect the country" tells you enough, puting a global warming sceptic as minister of environment tells you enough.

If you let a monkey drive your car, you don't have to wait and see him drive to know that he will crash.

The choice was between him and a way more evil version of him with a vagina and an ambition to drag the earth into WW3, so relative to that I'm glad he won, but on the large spectrum of available candidates, not so much. Out of all of them, the world got Donny and Hilly, lol.

This entire thing could have been avoided if good people were the final candidates, but good people rarely become final candidates when it comes to power.

So we were stuck with what one side though was the most horrible (Trump) and what the other side thought was the most horrible (Hillary), I don't see a way to win in a situation like that.

Don't get me wrong, I think he was absolutely the best possible outcome of the two candidates (might as well not count the rest, like 3rd parties cause Americans never vote for them), but overall, I kinda hoped someone like Rand Paul or Ben Carson would take it. Very down to earth, level headed and common people with somewhat common professions.

Where am I going with this? I don't know, we all got what we deserved. Enjoy :P. If you are a die-hard anti Trumper at least give the man a shot, he hasn't done anything of big (positive or negative) significance yet.

Also a little offshoot about the rioters, fuck those people. They are smashing up local businesses, people's valuable possessions and infrastructure, they're likely destroying the businesses and material items of people on the same ideological side as them.. No long term thinking in the brain of those cunts.

Lol at people saying "We gotta give him a chance..."

I don't have to give him shit, and if it was up to me, he and his incompetent team would be inpeached today! These people are not qualified to run a kindergarten, let alone a country.

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I don't find these comparison gifs to be all that fair. I've seen others that are pro trump about his saluting or something. Context is important

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this is gonna be a mess

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Attacking the media constantly is pretty stupid. The media made him w/ their distortion about immigration and climate change- they can fully turn on him pretty quickly if they feel theatened

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7 hours ago, D3ads said: Building a wall to stop illegal immigrants from coming into the country sounds like a logical plan to me.

As for Climate change, I'm not an environmentalist so I'm not going to comment on it much but it seems clear that China is the world's biggest polluter contributing some 30% of CO₂ emissions in the world, whereas the US is about 14%. Compare images of American cities from the 70s to now, there is much less pollution, the skylines are much clearer whereas China has pretty much always been a smoggy mess. I'm sure that the Trump administration will get on board somewhat with the Climate change deal in time but they will be looking at China to pull significant weight because they are the main issue.

Come on man, you know I got nothing but love for you but this is just bullshit and you know it.

Building a wall sounds like a logical solution to keep people in or out. In Berlin it was feasible because it was 27 miles. He's talking about a border that's 700 miles and that Mexico is going to pay for it. Sure, the Great Wall of China might have been over 13.000 miles but that took over 2000 years to build. I'm not saying they can't build a 700 miles wall, it's just not worth the investment. It's bullshit, all of it. Like a kid running for class president and demanding that, if he get's elected, there will be 3 lunches and soda machines in every class room. It's NEVER going to happen.

He denies climate change and within an hour after he took office, the White House pages for climate change were down. They made a statement about not wasting time on policies like that and that they'll focus on coal mining, which is completely pointless endeavor. Sure, I understand the China remark and I agree with it. But that's not what he's saying. He's denying global warming.

I'll never give him a chance. I'm not saying he will burn the house down, but I don't find that unlikely at all. There's such an enormous amount of evidence about him and his crew being unfit to hold office that I could wipe my ass with it until kingdom come. It's like not taking any precautions in your house and then leaving your toddler alone there. Sure, nothing has to happen but we all know that nothing good can come from it.

Don't forget China pollutes a lot because builds and makes shit for all of us rich western faggots.

Having an environmental agenda means not just adopting strategies to reduce your own pollution, but empower countries with less technology and make it important for everyone.

What worries me about China is the number of people. Apparently I'm not alone, I read a few years back on a business magazine about the western world worries for China's population, and they were saying the agenda for rich countries is pushing then toward our consumeristic needs, that way they will start focusing on things instead.

Anyway, "I'm not an environmentalist" in 2017, is ? dahell. When I hear this stuff I wish I could snap my fingers and make the world like I Am Legend (minus the vampires)

Oh, why oh why did I open this thread again?

And what is it with people saying "Wait to see what he does before you judge him!!!"? If you don't have the basic mental capability to make loose predictions about what a politician will do when they get in to power there's no point in even voting. It also defeats the purpose of a ridiculous two year campaign before vote day. It's pure nihilism.

What predictions? All I see are ridiculous doomsday prophecies, the end of days is coming, apparently.

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19 minutes ago, Vorontsov said: What predictions? All I see are ridiculous doomsday prophecies, the end of days is coming, apparently.

Case in point:

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18 hours ago, RaVaGe said: the way he handle the climate change policies will have a huge impact on the world as well.

I think "doomsday prophecy" might be a bit of an overstatement.

Luckily he has people on his team who disagree with his enviromental views and it's hard to say the man won't change his opinion over a 4 year span.

As for the people who aren't having any of the "give him a chance", it's your right, so do whatever you want but I would like to remind you, you lost the election and nobody has to listen to you, people are just trying to make the election outcome more bearable for the people whose candidate lost. All Americans should be hoping he succeeds in his job, because if he doesn't it willl fuck everybody equally regardless of their ideology.

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1 hour ago, Vorontsov said: you lost the election and nobody has to listen to you.

Lol.

Anything wrong with that statement besides a condescending lol?

You're basically saying that the 66 millions of people who voted for Clinton aren't important anymore and should therefore shut the fuck up for 4 years and accept their fates.

But that's just it isn't. He didn't have the majority of the votes. Hillary had almost 3 million votes more than him. She won the popular vote but due the Electoral College, Trump still wins. This College had the most faithless electors in over a 100 years. He also has the one of the lowest approval ratings of an incoming president in history.

Yes, he won, but the majority doesn't want him and that's why it's all going down like this.

Me, I'm Dutch and we don't care. We're being choked to death by the EU so we have other problems to worry about. I'm just saying, I get the uproar.

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1 hour ago, RaVaGe said: You're basically saying that the 66 millions of people who voted for Clinton aren't important anymore and should therefore shut the fuck up for 4 years and accept their fates.

I'm not saying that, but expect their views or ideas for policies on issues to be completely ignored because this is what one sided presidents do in America, Obama for example did things the way he saw fit and so has every president before him, and so will every president after him do. I'm having issues trying to find words on how to explain this better but basically a democrat won't enact republican ideals and nor would the opposite do that, just using democrat and republican as an example, they're almost the same shit. Also they should accept their fates as all people have previously. You also only mention Clinton votes and not the concerns of people who don't want to hop on either Trump or Clinton train.

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37 minutes ago, Sprony said: But that's just it isn't. He didn't have the majority of the votes. Hillary had almost 3 million votes more than him. She won the popular vote but due the Electoral College, Trump still wins. This College had the most faithless electors in over a 100 years. He also has the one of the lowest approval ratings of an incoming president in history.

No elections have been decided by the popular vote. Hillary had more faithless electors than Trump, but it's true this hasn't really happened before, not even in close calls like Bush vs Al-gore. Also expect a lot of the popular votes on her side to come from sanctuary cities.

As for the EU, not a fan. You can have healthy trade and travel between European countries without locking everyone in an union. If I recall correctly most of Sweden's laws since we joined have been imposed on us by the EU :|, there's probably some fancy statistic for this somewhere. You can come and go as you please, except we'll make leaving hard and a bad outcome for your nation, not talking about Brexit specifically, I think the case is the leavers don't have a written up plan and never expected to win.

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1 hour ago, Vorontsov said: No elections have been decided by the popular vote. Hillary had more faithless electors than Trump, but it's true this hasn't really happened before, not even in close calls like Bush vs Al-gore. Also expect a lot of the popular votes on her side to come from sanctuary cities.

As for the EU, not a fan. You can have healthy trade and travel between European countries without locking everyone in an union. If I recall correctly most of Sweden's laws since we joined have been imposed on us by the EU :|, there's probably some fancy statistic for this somewhere. You can come and go as you please, except we'll make leaving hard and a bad outcome for your nation, not talking about Brexit specifically, I think the case is the leavers don't have a written up plan and never expected to win.

If you ever want to see endless EU rants from me, we should start a thread