EU Referendum

    I was wondering what people's thoughts are on the UK leaving the EU. Personally, I was very surprised to see the vote turn out this way. I am also worried for what Scotland will do in the next few years. Will there be another Scottish Independence referendum? How will the EU referendum affect European and international relationships?

    Voted remain. Got fucked as we lost in the polls.

    Others voted leave and also got fucked as promises made my leave politicians are already being backpedaled on.


    Do we need a revolution?

    Goddamn fuck.

    Are they gonna brexit my ass now?

    I still haven't applied for residency after 3 years (stupid!) and was starting to think of citizenship as Italy is a place I don't want to go back until I'm a millionaire and can afford a summer house.

    Quote from blackdog

    23 minutes ago, blackdog said: Goddamn fuck.

    Are they gonna brexit my ass now?

    I still haven't applied for residency after 3 years (stupid!) and was starting to think of citizenship as Italy is a place I don't want to go back until I'm a millionaire and can afford a summer house.

    I think you'll be fine for a good while. They aren't going to start kicking people out of the country.

    Sigh... I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the bigot shit show we're witnessing in the world right now.

    I wonder how the EU will react. Because as I see it, their only option is to treat it as a mutiny and really come down hard on the UK. If they don't, others might follow. So it's better to set an example. Not that I wish bad things for either side, but I just don't see an alternative if you want to keep it going.

    Also, good luck to the immigrants because I'm expecting things like this:

    Quote from Sprony

    28 minutes ago, Sprony said: their only option is to treat it as a mutiny and really come down hard on the UK. If they don't, others might follow. So it's better to set an example.

    I think that's the attitude that ended up giving the leave campaign as much support as it had. Cameron was trying to negotiate a new deal for the UK but it was clear right from the start that he could get nothing out of all the negotiations. Couldn't even get enough of a deal that he could spin into a good thing. Made a lot of people realise that the EU does not have any consideration for the nations as individuals.

    Now because of this elitist attitude, there are calls for referendums in many other EU nations and it looks set that Scotland will leave the United Kingdom. Scotland wants to be part of the EU, but will there even be an EU left by the time it all comes to fruition?

    Troubling times ahead indeed but I think the vote highlights more than anything the huge divide within the United Kingdom right now when London votes remain but most of mainland England voted leave as well as all of Scotland voting remain.

    Well at least the UK seem no different than other countries on the repartition of votes. Youth wants to do something, middle age people are confused and old people are bat crap crazy in their arguments to leave the Europe (like racism and limited sights of the implications of the leave).

    Economics start to fuck the UK which may make them reconsider, since the older you get, the more you have to lose from the devaluation of your savings etc.

    @Skybex the EU couldn't be nice in negotiations with a country threatening to leave, before it made its decision. For the rest of the EU, it's the best way to send the message to the UK that they have a lot to lose in leaving. I don't know if it has something to do with a lack of consideration. To me it's more a lack of reaction since UK was acting like a drama queen in thinking they're better off without us and everything,like we should beg them to stay.

    @Sprony I don't know if it's the sign of everyone leaving, since the UK came to the EU very late and they left very early because they have an island complex. Euro skeptism is still strong in the rest of the EU, but euro skeptic remain for the most part relatively old, and the youths of all these countries will most probably fight harder than in the UK. (What movie those screenshots are from?)

    Anyone in the uk who's not originally from here can hide at my place anne frank-style.

    Although I do have a funny sounding surname so my days are probably numbered too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Quote from laminutederire

    12 minutes ago, laminutederire said:

    @Sprony(What movie those screenshots are from?)

    That was peckham this morning :|

    Yeah, last night was rough. Today is turning out rougher. But hey, that's democracy for you; the worst form of government, apart from all the other's we've tried.

    The movie is Children of Men if i am not mistaken. Excellent movie.

    And the EU couldn't be nice to a country threatening to leave? When that country is the EU's second largest economy and an island nation that's always been quite euro sceptic it might be time to play nice and not push the swing voters over to the leave side. Now because of such arrogance the UK people voted to leave and we will all pay the price for it. Short term at least it will not be good for anyone and I wonder what will come of the other larger EU nations' calls for a referendum.

    Long term though I can see it being good for the UK, but disastrous for the EU since now they only have two economically strong nations and so many weak ones that need to be supported.

    Thanks I'll check out that movie :)

    Well we weren't nice because the UK has always been a pain in the ass with their power plays.

    On the long term it probably will be worse for the UK than the EU. We still have the youth heard to remain in the EU so that we can build the next Europe, and do wonderful things. Dream is still alive, and in those times we need that more than anything.

    And I know for a fact that France will become a new economic power again, or I'll die trying to recover that status :)

    Quote from Skybex

    28 minutes ago, Skybex said: The movie is Children of Men if i am not mistaken. Excellent movie.

    And the EU couldn't be nice to a country threatening to leave? When that country is the EU's second largest economy and an island nation that's always been quite euro sceptic it might be time to play nice and not push the swing voters over to the leave side. Now because of such arrogance the UK people voted to leave and we will all pay the price for it. Short term at least it will not be good for anyone and I wonder what will come of the other larger EU nations' calls for a referendum.

    Long term though I can see it being good for the UK, but disastrous for the EU since now they only have two economically strong nations and so many weak ones that need to be supported.

    @laminutederire, Skybex is right, the movie is Children of Men.

    In regards to the comments above. I'm not pro EU at all, I'm pro global unity. Having said that, the UK always wanted to control EU. It was a power play more than anything else. They weren't in it for the team, they were in it to be the alpha dog. But guess what, those golden years of British imperialism are long gone. They bluffed and the EU called it. You can't honestly expect to negotiate a deal by starting 'If we don't get our way, we'll leave'. What's this? A girl's sweet sixteen party? So if you are going to use the word arrogance, please direct it towards the right people :)

    Quote from Sprony

    2 minutes ago, Sprony said: @laminutederire, Skybex is right, the movie is Children of Men.

    In regards to the comments above. I'm not pro EU at all, I'm pro global unity. Having said that, the UK always wanted to control EU. It was a power play more than anything else. They weren't in it for the team, they were in it to be the alpha dog. But guess what, those golden years of British imperialism are long gone. They bluffed and the EU called it. You can't honestly expect to negotiate a deal by starting 'If we don't get our way, we'll leave'. What's this? A girl's sweet sixteen party? So if you are going to use the word arrogance, please direct it towards the right people :)

    I may have mispoken, I meant to say UK was arrogant :)

    And I do agree with your position on the British motivation in the EU.

    As for thé global unity, I agree as well, but I feel like we're fundamentally bound to make that unity a reality in the EU as a proof of concept, so as to lead that movement to a larger scale. Otherwise you'll always see the US being skeptic and not playing it as they should, just like the UK.

    And thanks for the reference I'll try to watch it as legally as I can :)

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