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Before VS. Now

  • Taylor Swift
  • April 10, 2005 at 1:12 AM
  • jayrabbit
    • April 10, 2005 at 10:43 PM
    • #21
    Quote from insta

    Good thread Hopefully we will slow down a bit on the graphics side soon, and focus on other areas such as AI, immersion etc.

    Good point!

    Look at Half-Life 2. I mean the graphics, the physics, characters and all the other things are really great, but the AI is almost the same as the one in HL1. (Somehow I think the marines were even smarter than these combine guys...) There was almost no progress of the AI in the whole game industry the last few years. Even in Splinter Cell 3 the enemies aren't that much smarter than the guardians in Thief 1!

    So next step should be an AI revolution - forget about all these parallax maps and stuff. :wink:

  • Algor
    • April 10, 2005 at 11:29 PM
    • #22

    Cool thread...

    [Blocked Image: http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/CDE01DEB-DEC5-4CB8-BB9A-E630E802615D/0/ilmninjagaidenOrigas0192.jpg]

    [Blocked Image: http://www.mapcore.net/pics/misc/ninjagai2.png]

    [Blocked Image: http://www.xbox.com/media/games/ninjagaidentournament/sim-ninjagaiden-01.jpg]

  • Mazy
    • April 11, 2005 at 8:44 AM
    • #23

    fuck i hated the xbox version of ninja gaiden, so fckn hard, i just ended giving up on it cuz some of the later parts of the game were near impossible (for me anyway)

  • D3adlode
    • April 11, 2005 at 3:17 PM
    • #24

    I prefer the old times really, back when you could run Wolf 3D on a 486 with no slowdown! Nowadays games tend to recycle a lot of old stuff just with swanky fuck-off graphics engines to hide how unoriginal the games are.

  • DaanO
    • April 11, 2005 at 4:17 PM
    • #25

    Let's all hope no gamer will realise that for years so we can all just go on doing what we like. By the way, something like Warcraft 3 is insane. In cases like that better graphics actually add something so it's all good. But i do agree that in general, games are only looking prettier, gameplay not always getting better

  • mikezilla
    • April 11, 2005 at 4:51 PM
    • #26

    awesome thread.

    I just have to point out that the person who started it posted a duke3d screenshot under "doom 2"

    sigh.

  • st0lve
    • April 11, 2005 at 5:08 PM
    • #27

    Well it was nexus, what can you expect?

  • Taylor Swift
    • April 11, 2005 at 5:32 PM
    • #28
    Quote from st0lve

    Well it was nexus, what can you expect?

    opps.

  • D3adlode
    • April 11, 2005 at 5:46 PM
    • #29
    Quote from 3D Realms

    DOOM FOREVER WILL BE RELEASED WHEN IT'S DONE...oh wait..

  • jimius
    • April 11, 2005 at 5:56 PM
    • #30

    The only real problem with even better graphics is that development times will increase and costs will go up. EA already said it's next-gen games are going to be at least 10 bucks more expensive becuase of this. Powerful 3D hardware is nice, but if it takes 5 years to make a game, you can't take chances and you can't risk innovating.

    Gameplay uber alles

  • DaanO
    • April 11, 2005 at 8:07 PM
    • #31

    Innovative amateur games uber alles really. Natural Selection for one would never have seen the light as professionally made game.

  • mikezilla
    • April 11, 2005 at 8:35 PM
    • #32
    Quote from DaanO

    Innovative amateur games uber alles really. Natural Selection for one would never have seen the light as professionally made game.

    You mean Savage?

    :roll:

  • hamst3r
    • April 11, 2005 at 10:12 PM
    • #33

    WarCraft Series?

    WarCraft1:

    [Blocked Image: http://img58.echo.cx/img58/6705/12re.jpg]

    WarCraft2:

    [Blocked Image: http://img58.echo.cx/img58/7526/26mt.jpg]

    WarCraft3:

    [Blocked Image: http://img58.echo.cx/img58/140/37kp.jpg]

    World of WarCraft:

    [Blocked Image: http://img128.echo.cx/img128/7774/wow6dl.jpg]

  • InsaneSingingBlender
    • April 11, 2005 at 11:15 PM
    • #34

    warcraft 2 looks better than warcraft 3

  • ReNo
    • April 11, 2005 at 11:50 PM
    • #35

    Thats a strange taste you have to reach that opinion, but to each their own I guess

    hamst3r - gotta love that the paths in the WoW screenshot you posted are quite a throwback to the ones in warcraft 1

  • Hyperion2010
    • April 12, 2005 at 1:50 AM
    • #36

    AoE

    [Blocked Image: http://www.insanely-great.com/reviews/img/screenshot3.GIF]

    AoE2

    [Blocked Image: http://www.microsoft.com/Games/age2/img/ss_b_39.jpg]

    AoM

    [Blocked Image: http://www.s2.com.br/s2arquivos/361/Imagens/1912Image.jpg]

    AoE3

    [Blocked Image: http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/article/577/577466/age-of-empires-iii-20050105094720675.jpg]

    Now That is impressive.

  • Mazy
    • April 12, 2005 at 8:57 AM
    • #37

    ive always prefered warcraft 1s graphics over warcraft 2s :G~

    theres a really cozy feel to w1s gfx~

  • ctswin
    • April 12, 2005 at 9:14 AM
    • #38

    1>2>3 for me ¬¬

  • ReNo
    • April 12, 2005 at 2:36 PM
    • #39

    Funnily enough I can understand preferring 1 to 2 graphically, 2 just looks messy and fugly to me. AOE3 just looks...wow.

  • insta
    • April 12, 2005 at 2:50 PM
    • #40

    I remember playing Warcraft 1 1vs1 via a friend of mine back in the day, via 2400 baud modems....it was so slow, we never even managed to fight, we just built bases for 30 minutes or so, got bored because it was running at around ~4 fps then quit. Good times.

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