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The latest High-school massacre

  • D3adlode
  • March 25, 2005 at 7:20 PM
  • RD
    • April 12, 2005 at 11:07 AM
    • #41

    What u are obviously forgetting is that on page2 someone already mentioned this happens in Europe too, that nobody said gunlaws make ppl crazy and that in most poor countries the crime rates are far higher than in our rich countries.

    About the only thing u can do about it, is taking guns as far away as possible from these moshlosers. Like u already discovered, schoolshootings and shootings in general happen less frequently in Europe than in the US.

  • Kosmo
    • April 12, 2005 at 1:39 PM
    • #42
    Quote from RD

    in most poor countries the crime rates are far higher than in our rich countries.

    Actually that is the opposite, top5 most highesr rated countries by crime are "USA, Germany, UK, France and South Africa" not what you actually say poor countries. Sure when we go down the list we come across countries that have high poverty count, like Chile, Mexico, India and Thailand.

    If we look at general murder statistics then the chart show something different, but still countries like Russia, USA and South Africa are on top 10. Still we see good rotting on the "rich"countries (is the definition of rich by amount of rich people or general pool of money that the people in the country has in their disposal).

  • -Stratesiz-
    • April 12, 2005 at 5:48 PM
    • #43

    One word: inequality.

  • RD
    • April 12, 2005 at 5:49 PM
    • #44
    Quote from Kosmo

    Actually that is the opposite, top5 most highesr rated countries by crime are "USA, Germany, UK, France and South Africa" not what you actually say poor countries. Sure when we go down the list we come across countries that have high poverty count, like Chile, Mexico, India and Thailand.

    If we look at general murder statistics then the chart show something different, but still countries like Russia, USA and South Africa are on top 10. Still we see good rotting on the "rich"countries (is the definition of rich by amount of rich people or general pool of money that the people in the country has in their disposal).

    U know ofcourse that they dont keep charts in poor countries, and when killings, rapes, massacres and kidnappings occur there, theyre not called crimes, but war, a crisis or just ignored because its normal there and there is no justice system. South Africa is a safe place compared to half a dozen countries on the same continent, whatever your charts say

  • -Stratesiz-
    • April 12, 2005 at 5:53 PM
    • #45
    Quote from RD

    Actually that is the opposite, top5 most highesr rated countries by crime are "USA, Germany, UK, France and South Africa" not what you actually say poor countries. Sure when we go down the list we come across countries that have high poverty count, like Chile, Mexico, India and Thailand.

    If we look at general murder statistics then the chart show something different, but still countries like Russia, USA and South Africa are on top 10. Still we see good rotting on the "rich"countries (is the definition of rich by amount of rich people or general pool of money that the people in the country has in their disposal).

    U know ofcourse that they dont keep charts in poor countries, and when killings, rapes, massacres and kidnappings occur there, theyre not called crimes, but war, a crisis or just ignored because its normal there and there is no justice system. South Africa is a safe place compared to half a dozen countries on the same continent, whatever your charts say

    True as well~

  • RD
    • April 12, 2005 at 10:45 PM
    • #46

    The proof that gunlaws protect us against massmurderers:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europ ... index.html

    A knifewielding massmurderer took dozens of small girls hostage, but the drama ends in joy, and all the girls are released unharmed. Imagine what would have happened if germany had american gunlaws

  • kleinluka
    • April 13, 2005 at 1:43 AM
    • #47

    world war 2

  • Kosmo
    • April 13, 2005 at 8:30 AM
    • #48
    Quote from RD

    U know ofcourse that they dont keep charts in poor countries, and when killings, rapes, massacres and kidnappings occur there, theyre not called crimes, but war, a crisis or just ignored because its normal there and there is no justice system. South Africa is a safe place compared to half a dozen countries on the same continent, whatever your charts say

    True, many poor countries don't have up to date charts of their criminal activity, but it leaves you wonder how well registered actually ARE the murders and violence crimes around the world, domestic violence and incest, often go unnoticed because familymembers try to defend them, reasons are psychological.

    And I'm not even going to go to the effects of war has on countries and the population.

    My theory is this, generally people are much more happier in these so called poor countries, they might be poor materially, but rich in culture and social life, they help eachother. The whole western civilization is rich by material but poor emotionally, how many western countries actually can say that they have rich heritage and strong culture, and MTV is not culture believe me. We have stress and whine about nothing, boo hoo, I don't have 42 inch plasma TV how can I live now, I should jump off a balcony, I know I drink alcohol for the rest of my life, expectations are way too high for a society to be healthy, we don't have time for social life and we get poor emotionally we bottle up our angers and explode one by one, children are propably in the worst position here, they are emotionally fragile, but from first days of their life they are forced to the neck breaking speed of the western civilization that we invented out of nowhere.

    Schooling system is no good, it promotes those who get good grades and often ignore those who are medicore or poor in school, often same kind of competition continues after we graduate and get a job, I know atleast I have had to compete with several other graphic designers for my job and I have to keep improving to keep myself on the job, I know atleast a dosen other designers who suffer from the same things I do, lack of sleep, nervous breakdowns, some of them take moodmedication all because of the work, one guy from work had to retire early becuse he had a bad burnout and he is only 36 years old, he can't work ever, he has nightmares all the time and he is pretty badly bipolar. So in what ways you think our society is healthy? We suffer from mental anguish 99% of africans have never even heard of, the society keeps the pressure and actually is evolving to the point where we have to work more to keep the cash flow on and if the company didn't grow this year as much as last year (it didn't lose any money, it just made few millions less) the workers get laid off.

    You must have read the letter the one EA employees wife wrote, well suprise! It's not that much different in any other place, EA is just an extreme example since it has thousands of workers in same conditions.

  • kleinluka
    • April 13, 2005 at 2:51 PM
    • #49

    yeah lets blame EA for the school shooting. I like that!

  • user
    • April 13, 2005 at 8:34 PM
    • #50

    ^ sounds good, let's do it.

  • RD
    • April 13, 2005 at 8:50 PM
    • #51

    suddenly i agree with Kosmo

  • ginsengavenger
    • April 13, 2005 at 9:43 PM
    • #52

    oh boo hoo life is so hard. life is hard no matter where you live because people are all the same and we treat each other so miserably. some people can't suck it up so they break and take it out on those around them.

  • Kosmo
    • April 14, 2005 at 6:58 AM
    • #53

    It's hard to hate EA, they don't have face like Microsoft has, they have horns tho, maybe we should concentrate to the horns.

    But yeah, seriously, like I said on the first post, there can and usually is alot of reasons, these guys aren't wrapped so tight and something just pushed them over the edge, but before that there could have been anykind of shit loaded to their necks.

    But only the kid and something of God and bunch of mindreading frogs from indonesia know the reason why these kids snap. Maybe we should stop blaming videogames and parents AND instead start blaming the media, the kids got bad influence from the columbine thing and they get bad influence from the other shcool shootings, they think it's ok to do seems like these kids get alot of publicity and that is what everybody wants.

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