Unity 5

So this is cool, really like how they try to one-up eachother! Epic and Unity that is!

Is there actually a reason to go with Unity now that unreal is free? Other than been accustomed with the tools/having the company already on the Unity pipeline or personal development.

I mean for as straightforward the deployment to exotic platforms like smart TV or Blackberry, there may be some optimization needed, and I don't think the return is worth the headaches?

Unity doesn't have any royalties, just like cryengine.

Also, some ppl are accustomed to its workflow and it seems quite easy to work with. Plus it has very good perfomance.

So if you manage to sell a lot, you earn more with Unity than Unreal, because you pay that fixed license.

For me Unity is for smaller teams and projects that isn't real-time multiplayer and Unreal the contradiction.

Also, if Unity keeps the same pattern of development the Unity 5.0 will not be a feature update, it will be a shistorm of new bugs, covered with cream and a cherry on top called PBR. I'm still very cautious about Unity 5.0 and won't say a bit about it until I've worked with it a bit.

Lastly, I'd say 5% of revenue is completely worth the source code you get from Unreal, giving the team's programmers full control.

I'm quite lucky in the sense that I won a Unity 5 pro license last year, and have been testing the beta for some time and yeah it's a nice engine to work with, but for me it comes down to preference, I prefer UE4 for it's editor layout, it's blueprint system, C++ programming and a few other little quirks that make it unique.

I received an email today though saying I could go ahead and download the full Unity 5 pro version, but the thing 404s each time that I do it, which means there is interest, and so there should be!

Unity 5 is a nice tool-set and many small time or hobby devs will feel at home with it, especially if they've been using the free version for all these years, I think it's great they can now offer a free version that offers full engine capabilities, it's like I pointed out in the steam hardware thread, you now have two companies that offer the latest tech for free, this can only further advance and benefit the digital community.

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Lastly, I'd say 5% of revenue is completely worth the source code you get from Unreal, giving the team's programmers full control.

I perceive Epic's platform as more reliable and powerful, hence my previous question "why bother"

Unity 5

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Because games are all about graphics of course...

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<3<3<3 unity

they're both really powerful engines, each with their own pro's and cons, it's very hard to call one better than the other at this point. It all depends on the kind of project you're doing.

The one thing I was liking for older versions and that was making me interested in trying it, was that there was still a lot of brushwork in the construction of environments. I wonder if now it does rely on that at all (other than greyboxing)

I think unity is way better for creating games for the mobile, but if your main target is PC and you are in no way interested in creating an ios app then I'd go with unreal. Yeah unreal can target ios, but not as easily as unity.

From what I used in Unity 4&5 there was no brushwork, its done via 3D model assets, so you can create basic shapes but they are models, although it kind of works the same, I just never got the flexibility I had when working with brushes, most importantly was resizing on a grid, everything is done via position, rotation & scale values, which works for a set model, but not for greyboxing effectively.

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From what I used in Unity 4&5 there was no brushwork, its done via 3D model assets, so you can create basic shapes but they are models, although it kind of works the same, I just never got the flexibility I had when working with brushes, most importantly was resizing on a grid, everything is done via position, rotation & scale values, which works for a set model, but not for greyboxing effectively.

Well if you got some extra bucks there's always probuilder which is pretty sweet!

http://www.protoolsforunity3d.com/probuilder/

I'm a bit cautious about what Unity promises as they have been prone to delay their features and bug fixes in the past. The mere fact that UE4 provides source code for the engine puts it lightyears in front of Unity, as any bug or problem that may arise can be fixed (at least temporarily) but programmers on your team. On the other hand, the 5% might be too much at some point.

Either way, I'm sure Unity 5 is going to be interesting, and I'm glad that we have some proper competition between engines now. It serves to benefit us all in the end.

Yeah the naked eye can immediately see that Unity is cheaper in the long run, but I guess the cost is justified. And shouldn't the total amount due be less than the traditional publisher cut? Who might not cover all your running costs anyway(?).

Speaking of running costs, do you know if Steam/App store/etc and engine licensing are deductible costs from taxes?

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I think unity is way better for creating games for the mobile, but if your main target is PC and you are in no way interested in creating an ios app then I'd go with unreal. Yeah unreal can target ios, but not as easily as unity.

In curious, why Unity is better on mobile (atm)? Is it the tools, performances…

"Yeah the naked eye can immediately see that Unity is cheaper in the long run, but I guess the cost is justified. And shouldn't the total amount due be less than the traditional publisher cut? Who might not cover all your running costs anyway(?)."
Who says you cant use the 5% model and also use a publisher?

"Speaking of running costs, do you know if Steam/App store/etc and engine licensing are deductible costs from taxes?"

Yes.

Do you have to pay license for each member on the team with Unity?

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Who says you cant use the 5% model and also use a publisher?

I'm not saying publisher are disappearing, just taken out of the equation because if you have a publisher costs are gonna be higher. Also probably the 5% is gonna be paid by them to Epic?

Let's say you make 1 million revenue. Then, epic gets 5% of that, 50k.

After that, the publisher gets, according to your contract, a set percentage, i.e. 70%.

Then you are left with 30%

Also possibly some publishers might want to have you pay for the license, so they'll substract the 5% of your 30%.