Street Fighter V

PS4 and PC only? Wat... lol

As for the game, I'll reserve judgement for when I see proper footage of it, but it looks less stylized than 4. :[

awwwww yiss

although I could happily keep playing 4 for years.

EDIT: They better not have crap netcode this time.

I hope so. They've already done it with other games that use GGPO. That's what kind of pissed me off when they announced omega. I would way rather have them announced they were moving to GGPO

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awwwww yiss

although I could happily keep playing 4 for years.

EDIT: They better not have crap netcode this time.

pretty much this.

But then with a teaser the game is probably a few good years off. I'm gonna miss 4 a lot when it comes out too

Speaking of netcode, it's going to be able to play online between PS4 and PC.

Looks like it has chains and OTG attacks. Maybe Darkstalkers isn't dead after all.

I was a bit worried they have added V-ism, but the blue sparkles seem to be something else.

Hopefully the design won't be as schizophrenic as Street Fighter 4.

Capcom added rollback netplay in (the fantastically shit) SFxT and I am going to assume they are all based on the same engine. So in theory it will at least be using that... which wasn't GGPO and it had glitches, but it was certainly better than SF4.

it wasn't? weird since darkstalkers and sfIII used it. Didn't they?

Yeah, it was their own rollback solution in SFxT.

Plus Dimps made SF4 and SFxT, whereas Iron Galaxy did the 3S and DS ports.

Ah I see. Well here's hoping Iron Galaxy handles the netcode.

I must say that sfxt had noticeably better online performance regardless of whether or not they used GGPO.

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From the looks it seems like gameplay comes closer to SFxT than to SFIV - with no links or easier links. Maybe that's a good thing...?

It really depends on how they implement the chaining system. It might just be a mash combo for beginner players, otherwise sub-optimal to doing link combos, or just require meter to extend and make it useful (kind of like SFxT). The last main Street Fighter game with chains was SFA1 and it was a disaster, so I can’t imagine they will be too loose.

Easier links would be great. Even better just get rid of links and only have chains.

If for instance the eRyu sHP->axe kick->duck jab -> hadoken had the window from the axe kick to the jab change from 1 to like 5 frames that would be great. The execution is risky enough I don't bother in a close game.

Links are also an extremely boring ways of doing combos. For instance Guilty Gear loops are a lot more organic and visually a lot more exciting than two linked cr.MP's. At least to me, and while I appreciate it's very "anime," this does look like an evolution path SF could've taken after SFA.

The really tight links is one of the reasons I say SF4 has a schizophrenic design. The game isn't about combos so we filled it to the brim with tricky one frame links? Why?

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2 frame links on medium/heavy if you use an input bug to plink, and 2 frame links on everything if you use an input bug and modify your stick because select has higher button priority. Best input system ever?

Ultras were added as a newbie-friendly comeback mechanic. And they have the least newbie-friendly input they could possibly have. The game is about fundamentals and reading your opponent. But it's overflowing with ridiculous option selects that you just repeat in training mode and, in a live match, they will pick the best option for you. Or just do a random dragon punch and FADC out of it for no risk or huge reward. Whoops, there I go with the hating SF4 again.

yeah the fact plinks exist and are are vital to getting tough links is not a good thing. I hate having to train to use them.

Agreed that a lot of the stuff relating to hard execution doesn't add to the game, it separates the pros but only because they spend 10 hours a day getting the timing right. They need to loosen up the link requirements so that a wider spectrum of players can move up to mindgames and the higher meta play.

I don't mind the uppercut fdac though because it costs 2 bars. If it was one it might be a little too much.

I think they will have some sort of linking. The problem with chains is that game depth very quickly becomes shallow. You don't have to think too much about it because the chain works "out of the box". Whereas people are still finding new tech in SF4 because of new links.

I don't necessarily think that something like the GG loops are a solution; they seem to complicate things even more than links already are. If there'd be some sort of inverse tapering where combos would be harder to do the longer they are that would likely be the best. That would add two dimensional scaling on combos in general (damage already scaled), and it would make the meta about short combos and reads, while long combos would ultimately fail as even the best players would not be able to go beyond a certain amount of hits.

IMO the best thing Capcom could do is to look at metas in other competitive games (MOBAs would be an excellent source of inspiration) to see how players use abilities and feints that require only the basic execution skills.