MapCore CS:GO Playtesting 4.0

RZL, how can I view the GOTV playback of tonight's playtest?

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RZL, how can I view the GOTV playback of tonight's playtest?

I'd like to see it too

Awesome, thanks!

I'd like to playtest my De_agri 18.9 Thursday

Textfish's map:

Lay out was great. Didn't see any big issues. Easy flanks and good map control for CT's though (not a bad thing), but I noticed flanks were really easy as CT's. Might just be a result of the small map.

-Window room at B (seems too strong of a position to guard site from since you can safely hide there and it's really inaccessible). Also, the ledge that peaks into T spawn felt too strong; there's a lot of open space to quickly catch T's off guard. That area seemed CT-sided already with the 3-way chokepoint for CT's.

Some areas could use some cleaning up IMO:

-mid bridge windows camouflage players inside but it's easy to spot players from the bridge.

-B's staircase/wooden platform has holes in it (you can spot T's pushing out from the lower sewer route very easily.

-A few props you can jump on to get from that upper B route down into T spawn (the metal window bars). I actually liked this but if it's intentional, make it more obvious to players.

Gooby's map:

seemed like there was too much access for T's (6 routes IIRC?) Bomb sites could be redesigned to make them a bit more fun to play in (too small and too empty which makes it really hard for bomb defenders to zone out enemies and fend them off).

Other than that, I liked it! I liked the mid platform for T's and CT's. I liked the long B route. Someone mentioned adding cover so you can't see into T spawn from the pier area.

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Gooby's map:

seemed like there was too much access for T's (6 routes IIRC?) Bomb sites could be redesigned to make them a bit more fun to play in (too small and too empty which makes it really hard for bomb defenders to zone out enemies and fend them off).

Other than that, I liked it! I liked the mid platform for T's and CT's. I liked the long B route. Someone mentioned adding cover so you can't see into T spawn from the pier area.

The thing with there being so many routes for Ts is not so straightforward in this map, as for example to get to A, passing middle is a must, unless the cts at b get picked off. Though I'm guessing you meant the map would be too complex and confusing because of so many routes.

Hmm, many others said they liked B, but it was too empty and needed more cover and details.

Ahaha that long route on B.. people just rushed that place and cts couldn't do anything

I don't really know how to make a good bombsite though, maybe I'll just try different things and see if it works..

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I'd like to see it too

Here ya go, buds:

de_88mm

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1VMhS…dit?usp=sharing de_markethttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1VMhS…dit?usp=sharing

Erm.. how do I view these? my game just crashes when I load them on demoui..

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Erm.. how do I view these? my game just crashes when I load them on demoui..

same here.

btw, can you guys run hammer after update? It won't run for me, no crash, no error log, nothing.

Nope, valve managed to break hammer and a bunch of other things in the game. Why do they update the game if it only makes it worse?

Yes I'm salty.

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same here.

btw, can you guys run hammer after update? It won't run for me, no crash, no error log, nothing.

Yeah I just tried the demo and got the same thing. I put it in csgo folder, then type playdemo demoname in console and CS shuts down. I haven't found anybody experiencing the same issue on google. I tried renaming the dem file to something shorter with no special characters, still nada.

Is weird.

Also yeah, Valve fucked Hammer three days before the date for Operation submissions to be on the workshop. Bravo Valve, bravo.

is the mapcore server still running fine for playtesting tonight? want to play

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Textfish's map:

Lay out was great. Didn't see any big issues. Easy flanks and good map control for CT's though (not a bad thing), but I noticed flanks were really easy as CT's. Might just be a result of the small map.

-Window room at B (seems too strong of a position to guard site from since you can safely hide there and it's really inaccessible). Also, the ledge that peaks into T spawn felt too strong; there's a lot of open space to quickly catch T's off guard. That area seemed CT-sided already with the 3-way chokepoint for CT's.

Some areas could use some cleaning up IMO:

-mid bridge windows camouflage players inside but it's easy to spot players from the bridge.

-B's staircase/wooden platform has holes in it (you can spot T's pushing out from the lower sewer route very easily.

-A few props you can jump on to get from that upper B route down into T spawn (the metal window bars). I actually liked this but if it's intentional, make it more obvious to players.

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Thanks King, really appreciate the feedback.

I wasn't aware of the window bars route, I'll have to nerf that otherwise people will expect to be able to get on the roofs as well and that would lead to all sorts of other shenanigans!

I'm also going to reduce the power of the room above B by blocking visibility from the 'nest' area all around so that it's basically just a route to the one-way drop.

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I tried to get the server running but it's not updated yet. The playtest gets postponed to tomorrow, sorry guys.

Would it be bad of me to get my map playtested again after doing a few changes after the last one that was on 9th.. or is that just considered "spamming" the schedule?

Anyways, if the playtest is going to be held today, here are the files http://www.gamefront.com/files/24471853/market.rar

can i has playtest on 16th(tuesday) pls

I'm gonna ask for another playtest run whenever possible, let me know the date!

Thank you very much, mapcore has been very helpful.

After some gameplay changes from the previous feedback wave, I'm uploading the map to the workshop as well (you'll find the thread in the 3D section)