Does this mean it is for real?

    Yeah, apparently it has started. Internet is not the land of the free anymore. Maybe this will get people talking about it finally? i can't believe people let this kind of shit slide

    That is absolutely ludicrous. A huge proportion of the internet in general runs on AWS nowadays, not just videos but also entire websites. Are you seriously telling me they're starting to slow down the internet rather than, you know, invest in higher capacity (like some countries are successfully doing)? Shit, man...

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    There was some dude that asked Obama about NN and the current situation on a google hangout last week, you can see his answer here

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    I think for now this is a bigger issue in America where you have a very limited amount of internet providers that in some places have full monopoly and can screw their customers over pretty easily.

    Wow fuck verizon. The fact they aren't even being up front with is even worse. There's a good chance I would be fumbling around with my router for days thinking I'm the problem.

    Just the kind of shit I expect from american companies these days. This country is run by companies for companies, consumers have no voice at all other than boycotting, but even that becomes virtually impossible when you notice that a few megacorporations control everything... I noticed that my internet became shittier and shitter for netflix recently, I thought I was just hallucinating, but maybe that's not the case? Does anybody know any place to complain about shit like that here, other than internet forums or posting shit on facebook?


    Brazil is a pretty fucked up country and we got a lot of things wrong, but at least we have governmental agencies that take care of consumer complaints and help people go to court if needed. If I feel like a company is ripping me off in Brazil I can just complain to the government, and if enough people complain they are forced to take action.

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    Brazil is a pretty fucked up country and we got a lot of things wrong, but at least we have governmental agencies that take care of consumer complaints and help people go to court if needed. If I feel like a company is ripping me off in Brazil I can just complain to the government, and if enough people complain they are forced to take action.


    Yeah, same in portugal. There's a specific organization that deals with this exact same of bullshit, no matter what scale. It's called "consumer protection association" and they already prevented and fixed a lot of shit like this. But again, no way this would even work in the USA, companies would bring it down easily and they would never let it become big enough to matter or to even cause any kind of ripple in this ocean of bullshit.

    Like netflix has any chance to fight agaisnt the power companies such as ISP's. They're all in bed together and they'll be expecting it.

    Well the good thing is when consumers realize that it's their ISP and not Netflix messing with them then hopefully Verizon will suffer when they lose subscribers.


    I like how Netflix publishes those reports now and then rating ISP's

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    Yeah, same in portugal. There's a specific organization that deals with this exact same of bullshit, no matter what scale. It's called "consumer protection association" and they already prevented and fixed a lot of shit like this. But again, no way this would even work in the USA, companies would bring it down easily and they would never let it become big enough to matter or to even cause any kind of ripple in this ocean of bullshit.


    Yea we have this in Germany aswell thank god. They stopped something similar from happening just recently or at least managed to postpone it.


    In the long run i think internet as we know it is doomed tho. This shit will just creep in bit by bit, two steps forward, one step back. Rinse and repeat. My only hope is that maybe some other technology will pop up that connects people in a less controlable and virtualy unlimited manner.

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    There's a specific organization that deals with this exact same of bullshit, no matter what scale. It's called "consumer protection association" and they already prevented and fixed a lot of shit like this.


    Stop trying to destroy freedom you filthy commie

    You owe to yourself this situation. And don't count neither Netflix to fight back nor Consumer Protection association.


    I feel like everybody use internet but forgot or never known about what is internet. What's make internet so special?


    - Decentralization.


    Google? Centralized.

    Netflix? Centralized.

    Facebook? Centralized.

    Apple? Centralized.

    Microsoft? Centralized.

    Yahoo? Centralized.

    Amazon? Centralized.

    Twitter? Centralized.

    AOL? Centralized.

    Dropbox? Centralized.

    Graiglist ? Centralized.

    Adobe? Centralized.

    Steam? Centralized.

    Mapcore? Centralized but I deal with it.

    Bitcoin and open source? Decentralized.


    So hows about hosting your own content instead of uploading everything on Flickr, Youtube and such?

    - I've read the answer you are going to write as I felt in the same situation last year with Free (my provider) and Youtube. But now I opened my eyes and managed myself alone as I've never seen any help from anywhere. No pain no gain.


    They're making billion on your back. If you shared once on Facebook your situation and posted you were looking for losing weight then for some company of the Big data you worth $500.


    Internet is as major as printing and its take 400 years to get the freedom of expression. I guess it's will take time before we see similarities as well for the Internet.


    The topic is vast but once again guys do it yourself. We are our own best advocates, as the saying goes.

    I think the best way of stopping these things is to take away the one source of power the ISPs truly have: money.

    It delights me to see these initiatives some companies have been talking to make the internet freely available on a wide scale, like those balloons Google was deploying to cheaply distribute internet access across an entire city if not continent.

    What we need is for those technologies to become much more widespread and almost negligible in terms of cost. While companies will always be needed — you can't 'home grow' reliable and performant internet infrastructure — by having it so no one company has anything resembling a stranglehold they simply won't be able to charge huge prices while providing a shit service.

    I'd love to see a world where hundreds of companies are offering cheap, global, high-speed internet access. No installation, no limitations, potentially not even registration. It'd definitely require wireless technology to improve but we're going that way.

    It's currently a dream but imagine if wireless became so robust you could use an ISP from Germany as easily as the US from any destination on the planet. US ISPs are assholes? Australian ISPs censor? No problem, go choose one from somewhere else. Making the internet providers as global as the internet itself would be huge and force ISPs to think twice about anti-consumer bullshit.


    Your List is not very accurate. It would be more like:


    Apple Cloud

    Amazon Cloud

    Google Cloud

    Facebook Cloud


    Everything else is stored within these servers. Especially the Amazon and Google Cloud are probably hosting 60% of today's internet. Even if you try "and host it yourself", a lot of the space you can rent easily is in the Amazon cloud.

    People are too complacent to do anything about it. Even if we're all against it, there's still another 99.9% of the population that don't care. Changes against this need to happen through more clandestine ways rather than just oppose it from the outside. I get that corporations want money, and that a net loss of money would get them to change their minds - however, losing you as a customer, or even losing 10,000 customers might not be a net loss for them if their strategy works so they get a return on investment elsewhere that is larger.

    Between us and the corporations, we're not all that much in a different situation. They are trying to impose sanctions and restriction on a huge amount of the populace by playing it smart, and working below the radar. Why should we not employ the same tactics to nullify their actions? Alternatively, create a new, better, more sustainable internet that will force everyone to switch over. I also like the idea of having a global ISP market, however unlikely it will turn out as something good.

    Capitalism and the American Dream at its best. I think it's a pretty rotten dream, might've worked in the past with startups but nowadays it's very dystopian megacorporation-ish. Then again, I don't look into economics for that exact depressing reason so I know jack shit about it... Might not be all that negative as I make it out to be. Oh well, back to being naive and ignorant

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