Call of Duty: Ghosts

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    Honestly though the day I stop looking forward to games that are legitimately enjoyable because I want to conform to the opinions of the negative online minority is the day I want to stop working in the industry. Enjoying games on a basic level is what many gaming fans online nowadays seem to forget they're supposed to be doing

    I think the negative reactions stem more from extremely short games being released on an excessively regular schedule. MapCore's industry-based membership is a bit above hating games for the sake of hating. Even those like me who previously loved the CoD series and were fans before the Modern Warfare days are tired of it.

    It is the definitive 'milk the cash cow' series, more so than any other I can think of. At least with Assassin's Creed there's a lot of gameplay there. Call of Duty? I'm lucky if they last me six hours, and there's virtually no replay value because of their ultra-scripted nature. Unless you like multiplayer — and I can think of much better alternatives — the CoD games represent the worst value for money you can get in gaming.

    If they released one every two years and put twice as much single-player gameplay into it I'd probably be more likely to buy them. As it is, I gave up after the Modern Warfare series because I was so pissed off with how much I'd spent on so little gameplay.

    After playing games like Deus Ex and Dishonored, the proposition of spending on so much on such a tiny sliver of gameplay — no matter how awesome and bombastic — is almost insulting.

    My comment wasn't particularly directed at Mapcore, more of a broad reaction to all the comments on news items I've read about this game over the past day or so.

    When it comes to COD you are right about the single player, things need to change there (and maybe won't) but I mainly get it for the MP and for me it's my favorite MP game out there (along with BF). It's kind of a social thing, I have a group of friends who all get together every year and spend the majority of the year playing the new COD games together, catching up while doing so and generally having a laugh. In that respect for me it's great value for money as I end up putting days of online hours into the games and have a good time while doing so.

    If i was more SP focused when it came to these games maybe I'd share some of the opinions of others online, but I'm not so I don't

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    Enjoying games on a basic level is what many gaming fans online nowadays seem to forget they're supposed to be doing

    what does this even mean

    It means that in my opinion some people seem to have lost the capacity to just switch off and enjoy games as an entertainment medium instead of over-analyzing and critiquing them. There are people out there who will formulate opinions on a COD game solely based on it being a COD game, without playing it. I didn't think I made it that hard to understand.

    I think you misunderstood my point, I'm not instructing anyone on how to do anything. All I was saying was that on a basic level the main purpose of a game is to be enjoyed and it'd be nice if more people simply appreciated that games existed and people work hard to make them fun, rather than bitching and moaning about them and condemning them before playing them based on their name. I don't think that's silly of me

    I think the reason I bought it up was because my friend (who works in the industry) played Bioshock Infinite recently and spent the whole playthrough looking for reasons why it shouldn't have been given such good reviews, kinda made me think it was a sorry situation to be in is all.

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    It means that in my opinion some people seem to have lost the capacity to just switch off and enjoy games as an entertainment medium instead of over-analyzing and critiquing them. There are people out there who will formulate opinions on a COD game solely based on it being a COD game, without playing it. I didn't think I made it that hard to understand.

    Yep. We look to games now to solve our age old existential crises. Books failed, movies failed, music failed, now it's up to games to take charge and illuminate these problems. I don't want to waste time just playing something, my time is too precious for that. I want something that will change my world view. We have to stop with the man shooters and make meaningful faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart

    I can appreciate your point, there are a lot of people out there who seem to think it's totally uncool to be into something that a lot of other people are into. There's probably some proper name for it, but I like to think of it as aversion to popularity. With these people it's a seriously uphill fight to convince them something is worth trying if they can see a lot of other people like it, very sad way to be.

    I think with Call of Duty a lot of people are genuinely fatigued by it though, I know I am. Same for Assassin's Creed even though I have mostly really enjoyed those games. I guess some publishers have been experimenting with how much they can get away with releasing lots of sequels this generation. Of course there'll be a lot of people jumping on the 'fuck CoD' bandwagon...

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    Yep. We look to games now to solve our age old existential crises. Books failed, movies failed, music failed, now it's up to games to take charge and illuminate these problems. I don't want to waste time just playing something, my time is too precious for that. I want something that will change my world view. We have to stop with the man shooters and make meaningful faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart

    Nope, we can have both. But a yearly released cookie cutter shooter is an obvious cash grab.

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    I'd like to make snarky comments too, but I'm probably gonna get suckered into buying it...again

    To me, CoD serves a purpose: give me roughly 6 hours of highly scripted, highly polished, decently voice acted shooting gallery gameplay with some epic looking set pieces. Is it worth $60 to me? That's a tougher call for me every year. But do I like to play such a game? Sure. On the plus side, it's only six hours long (sp anyway) thus it doesn't take me 50 hours to beat the campaign. And i found Blops2 zombie mode kind of fun. Wish they would do more with that but then you're making a second campaign and that gets real expensive...

    CoD isn't the only type of game I like, but it is ONE of the games I like. If the game is good in comparison to Blops2 I'll get it. If it is like CoD:Blops Declassified on Vita which was a fucking disaster (no offense, those involved), no...won't be getting it.

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