Call of Duty: Black Ops 2

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after MW3's downward turn of sales.

what ? i was sure that they sold MW3 realy good ?

HP if you want to be let down by FPS'a a lil more try Syndicate

Black Ops was fun, better than MW3. They should incorporate the zombies into the SP not just MP

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what ? i was sure that they sold MW3 realy good ?

HP if you want to be let down by FPS'a a lil more try Syndicate

AFAIK it had an OK launch, but its overall sales have been slower. Not saying it's been a bad run by any means, just that what went up and has started to come down again starting with MW3.

Where to begin...

"BWWAAAAA" is soooooo 2011.

This trailer's got

BWWWNNNNYYYYYYAAAAAA

Quote from Thrik

what ? i was sure that they sold MW3 realy good ?

HP if you want to be let down by FPS'a a lil more try Syndicate

AFAIK it had an OK launch, but its overall sales have been slower. Not saying it's been a bad run by any means, just that what went up and has started to come down again starting with MW3.

not according to this:

http://%7boption%7d

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what ? i was sure that they sold MW3 realy good ?

HP if you want to be let down by FPS'a a lil more try Syndicate

AFAIK it had an OK launch, but its overall sales have been slower. Not saying it's been a bad run by any means, just that what went up and has started to come down again starting with MW3.

not according to this:

http://%7boption%7d

Yeah, it had a strong launch but lifetime sales are lower than Black Ops.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/1685 ... ewhere.php

... i though that trailer was fake at first i thought it was some 6/10 "raven squad" game ... but its real o_o

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Black Ops was fun, better than MW3. They should incorporate the zombies into the SP not just MP

Ho hell not !

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":36picmjp]Am I the only one who felt a REALLY awkard mix of Battlefield and DeusEx:HR vibe? Both in the looks and music.

Music instantly reminded me of DE:HR, plus they're doing the whole future-esq setting. I couldn't help but feel they're trying to take a few tips from the game.

Still not interested though.

urgh the trailer is shot at too high fps or something, it makes it look weird. plus i mean for something like this, why not use properly rendered cgi instead of in-game shots?

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urgh the trailer is shot at too high fps or something, it makes it look weird. plus i mean for something like this, why not use properly rendered cgi instead of in-game shots?

Haven't the recent CoD trailers used mostly in-game footage? Or all in-game footage for said trailers?

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Haven't the recent CoD trailers used mostly in-game footage? Or all in-game footage for said trailers?

i don't know, i don't usually watch trailers at all. i was lured into watching this one in hopes of DE:HR-esque music. alas, i am now not only cringing, but also severely disappoint.

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urgh the trailer is shot at too high fps or something, it makes it look weird. plus i mean for something like this, why not use properly rendered cgi instead of in-game shots?

Wait, what? You actually want CGI trailers? Booo.

Also, another trailer.

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Haven't the recent CoD trailers used mostly in-game footage? Or all in-game footage for said trailers?

i don't know, i don't usually watch trailers at all. i was lured into watching this one in hopes of DE:HR-esque music. alas, i am now not only cringing, but also severely disappoint.

If it had been cgi-only, we would now be complaining about that. It looks more interesting than I expected actually. The plot sounds cool, then again I don't play CoD for the singleplayer. I haven't even played the first Black Ops, but I must confess that I'm a big MW multiplayer fan (got 1, 2 and haven't missed a free MW3 multiplayer weekend on Steam yet). Keeping up with every CoD release has become a hobby by itself. :derp:

Setting, story, engine and visuals don't mean dick if they don't chance the core gameplay. Because it treats you like you are a retard. Invisible walls everywhere, no room to explore, extremely linear, heavily scripted, waves of respawning enemies, invisible lines you have to cross to proceed and so on.

Not only does is take away any form of challenge, it also kills realism. Having a cutscene every few minutes doesn't help either. It's like playing an action version of Heavy Rain.

I'm not expecting a RPG or a huge open world, but some simple alternative routes, a bit more freedom to reach the objective and less obvious respawning and crossing the invisible line would be a breath of fresh air!

Of course I'm talking SP here. I don't do MP COD and I've stopped playing it all together since BO.

Also, I can't blame them for doing it, since everybody seems to be buying it anyway, but paying full price and sometimes more for a 5 hour SP campaign and some new MP maps is ridiculous.

I own all Call of Duty games and I can honestly say that Black Ops has been the hugest disappointment of the franchise. Can't even fucking play it. I'm very skeptical about this.

Yesterday Activision released a new trailer for Black Ops 2, revealing the villain. Have a watch:

1) The narrator general guy you see in the beginning...I can't recall who that actor is but I recognize him so my first thought is "there is something familiar about this that I can't quite put my finger on." So I guess I'm a little intrigued by that as an opener.

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2) Villain is portrayed as the leader of the 99%...so that's topical and mainstream media/consumers have a general awareness of that. Also does not sell me on the game but again it's something familiar.

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3) From the co-writer of The Dark Knight Rises? Well...yeah I think many many "core" and "mainstream" and "casual" gamers have a good awareness of that movie and I think many of them can't wait to see it. Ok...so now they are trying to hit up on that in the week the actual movie comes out. That's a smart move from a marketing perspective even if vocal core online trolls will flame Activision for it. They are already flaming Activision for everything even when a good % of them will buy the next Call of Duty anyway. So, go for it Activision...tie your game to The Dark Knight Rises somehow. You've got the cash and the balls, no one is going to stop you. And if David S. Goyer actually improved the game's writing, it's hard to argue against that.

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4) Music for the game by Trent Reznor? Well...he's possibly my favorite musical mind in history and pretty much everything he's done I like. In the trailer there is some piano music that very much reminds me of his musical work in NIN as well as other movie/game soundtracks he's composed for. I can't argue with this either as I have huge respect for him and I suppose it may contribute to the tone of the game. So that could be another good thing that could make the game better.

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5) Notice the press quotes are from USA Today and Forbes. These are major mainstream and business print/online outlets, not pure gamer press or big gaming sites like Gamespot or IGN.

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6) And then at the end they've got the call to action with the pre-order offer...do it now and get Nuketown map free.

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So, what does this all mean? It means Activision is going for the big numbers again (obviously) and they recognize they have to keep pushing craftier, Batmany-tie-in-anyway-anyhowy-even-if-people-will-call-it-cheapier, Trent Reznorier, mainstreamier, pre-orderier -- you get the idea. But notice this trailer is not incredibly controversial like the Hitman Trailer from E3. Whether you like Call of Duty anymore or not, the trailer has a tight narrative, shows only in-game footage, has nothing really cringe-worthy in the voiceover (not all trailers can claim that) and has an actual tone of desperation and treachery.

Finally, it's still got the BWWWAAAAAHHH only as if someone imagined how Trent Reznor might make it sound.

HOWEVER...this by itself doesn't sell me on the game. What will sell me on the game is if come this fall I really feel like another ride on the CoD train. MW3 disappointed me and yes, I liked Black Ops better than MW3. At least you know what you are getting and if you really hate CoD then you know you probably aren't missing anything by skipping out. So as of now I am cautiously optimistic it might be somewhat enjoyable but we'll see if that gets me over the (nothing against Treyarch, btw...Activision tells them they gotta make another CoD so they do it.)

Listen to the narrator and think vortigaunt.

I heard it instantly. Couldn't take the trailer seriously.

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Listen to the narrator and think vortigaunt.I heard it instantly. Couldn't take the trailer seriously.

omg...that changes everything!

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