Ghost Recon Future Soldier

GRFS looks tip top, and I'm really glad to hear that it's still a tactical game.

How does it feel playing Ghost Recon in 3rd person?

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GRFS looks tip top, and I'm really glad to hear that it's still a tactical game.How does it feel playing Ghost Recon in 3rd person?

LOL< the console versions have always been in 3rd person

Console ones went first person for any kind of splitscreen play...

Im having a lot of fun with future soldier. Haven't played any singleplayer yet, but the multiplay is a blast.

I finished this over the weekend, so i guess I'll sum up my thoughts on it

The good:

- SP was pretty long, took about an hour a mission, 12 missions

- I liked the tactical elements to it, the cloaking and the drones and the target elimination system

- MP seems quite fun, not played it very much yet though

- Good that you can do it in co-op, though not tried yet

- Each mission seemed quite distinctive in terms of visual style and setting, which helped break it all up quite nicely

The bad:

- Visuals were pretty inconsistent (no offence 3Dnj!). In some places they looked quite nice (I think the lighting was generally quite well done) however in others they were pretty bad, there was a forest level at the end on which I encountered a section of rock bank which looked like it had a photo stuck on it and the floor below it was covered in stretched textures, how does this happen in a modern game? I know it was delayed but I didn't think the team had been that pushed for time, or am I wrong?

- Character animations in cut-scenes were a bit bad. There was one where a character got shot and suddenly his normal face changed into a dead face, was quite funny though

- Some AI issues, on one mission two of my team-mates got stuck whilst crawling under some collapsed debris, I had to quit out and restart just to get them back. Also in some areas I'd sneak around the enemies and proceed through the level, however my team-mates seemed to think an area couldn't be passed until it had no enemies left in it

- As mentioned before, not clear which bits you are supposed to be tactical/ghosty on and which you can't possibly be. I don't think I found one mission you can be 100% ninja on, there's a bit on each where the game forces combat on you

- I did a great run on a prison level, snuck around with no alerts and only had to take out 6 guards, yet I only got a 70% ghost rating? I assume this is because the rating system awards bonus points based on successful silent kills, yet this is flawed obviously as there are multiple ways to approach a situation stealthily.

- The game does take control away from you sometimes. In the on-rails shooting bits you only have a set FOV, so if an enemy is just to one side of that FOV you can't shoot him, which is odd

- Didn't find any real use for flashbangs, smoke or normal grenades or the EMP on the drone. Seemed easy enough just to use your team-mates to take people down and if you got alerted you just shoot everyone

Seems like I have a lot more bad points, but I'd still give it a 7 or 8 overall, with SP, co-op, guerilla mode and MP there's a lot of content packed in so it's worth playing I think

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LOL< the console versions have always been in 3rd person

Yeah I forgot about that, and the fact that you also had the medic class on console.

I've always played Ghost Recon on PC.

when is the PC release?

Started this last night with two buddies on campaign co-op... hugely disappointed so far. The game is super-on-rails linear, locked FOV stuff at times, tons of random fail conditions that suddenly turn on and off that make no sense. At times the duration of cutscenes are longer than the actual gameplay, and the cutscenes are just your uninteresting generic military banter that most of the time you can't even skip. The first cutscene literally has dialogue like, "John Smith has a information we need, blah blah blah lets go get him". I installed the game to my HD just like it recommended, and still on the weapon customization screen it can take ~3 seconds to display anything on each screen. The game feels much less like a tactical game and more like "do exactly what we tell you to do because we're telling you it's tactical or you will fail". The checkpoints are some of the most poorly placed before cutscenes, or before long drawn out sequences that you will agonizingly play over and over. This is especially bad for the room breaching sequences that go into slow motion that are cool once, and having to play them multiple times because someone fails for some obscure reason is infuriating.

I checked out the multiplayer skirmish mode (not sure what it's called exactly) which was also disappointing. Small maps where you overtake a defensive position, and then trying to hold the position against one wave of enemies at a time in what can be really bad defensive positions (various straight line pieces of cover that constantly have you getting shot in the back). Some of these areas also highlight how broken the game can be where I was up on some stairs on an elevated defense position, and the cover system prevented me from aiming anything lower than the height my player was at, so I was killed.

First impression; maybe worth a rental or borrow, not worth $60. I'm also just one guy, so if there's a demo or something check it out

Just finished the game over the weekend and really enjoyed it.

Out of curiosity, which maps did you work on 3Dnj?

Nice one, I enjoyed Deep Fire and Subtle Arrow. The vista when you get to see the boat for the first time with the environmental foley really made it seem huge, and a bit monstrous

The firefight through the sandstorm in Subtle Arrow was also pretty cool, having to rely on optics the whole time. Although admittedly I switch to, and stay on magnetics for most of the shooting sequences. It was a bit interesting though, that my sniper rifle could shoot a dude behind sandbags, but not someone behind a tent. Overall though awesome work man, I'd definitely be proud of it.