XBox360 games running on Win8?

Wel wel. From PC to Console and then back to PC. I guess we could have seen this one coming. The console was already a computer with all the chatting, surfing, tv, ...

but where is the actual evidence? or any statement of proof?

I got a good PC, I have a xbox260 controller for it, I have HDMI out...

Now all I need them to do is stop charging 50$ a year to use my own computer and connection as a server and I'm in.

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This is illegal, the only way this could be done is with emulators, which are illegal. Microsoft will be forced to shut down by the government for this.

That comment cracked me up, hahahahaha WTF stupid.

So I guess windows 8 is basically a big collection of virtual machines right? (well, more than that obviously but still..) so I wonder if it is running a 360 vm???

At any rate thats pretty awesome.

it'd be costly to maintain many different vm's at once...

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it'd be costly to maintain many different vm's at once...

Java and .NET are both VMs, and your browser practically is as well. Compared to natively running code, maybe, but computers are so ridiculous anymore that the performance cost basically doesn't even matter.

Pretty flimsy evidence at the moment.

Also, Microsoft has registered sony-microsoft.com and microsoft-sony.com

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Java and .NET are both VMs, and your browser practically is as well. Compared to natively running code, maybe, but computers are so ridiculous anymore that the performance cost basically doesn't even matter.

no shit sherlock. vm's are only initialized when there are programs using them, and they usually stop by the time you quit the application using the vm. but having many vm's running with each only a few active (read: non-idle) programs will prove to be costly even for today's computers. and lol at saying performance costs don't matter. good code can increase performance by a factor million or even billion, whereas hardware only doubles it, and only every 18 months.

i hear they have courses on the internet teaching people about computers, maybe you should take one.

I said "the" performance cost. Of VMs. Not in general performance doesn't matter. Especially for programmers less superleet than you clearly are, managed code like cs and python can offer significantly more performance than something that lets you fuck up as bad, like c++. Automated garbage collection is great, it makes my life way easier

Not perfect, of course. The other day I accidentally left some debug output shit in my data tree management while stress testing the system with 1000 nodes. It shat out 160 50MB .txt files, each 22 lines of around ten million characters, and crashed when it ran out of hard drive space to write to.

"the" performance cost. of vm's. is what i'm talking about. not to mention the memory overhead needed to run x number of vm's at once. there's just no reason to do it when there are more effective ways of doing this, possibly by even easier means. also way to try to avoid the subject by posting random bullshit.

Yes the decision to use .NET and Java and numerous other controlled, isolated systems is all retarded, and nobody, certainly not Microsoft, knows what they're talking about over your opinion that performance is all that matters, Sentura.

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Yes the decision to use .NET and Java and numerous other controlled, isolated systems is all retarded, and nobody, certainly not Microsoft, knows what they're talking about over your opinion that performance is all that matters, Sentura.

nobody from microsoft mentioned any of what you are referring to.

The idea is that you can run a VM of any previous windows machine in win8; theres a win7 vm, a winxp vm, a win 98 vm (maybe even everyone's favorite nostalgia inducer, 3.1?)

I don't think it uses a vm for win8 native programs nor for the 'tiles'

I don't think it uses user level vm's

Of course it's all rumour...

pretty sure this is how compatability mode is handled in windows today, but that wouldn't require them to run simultaneously. as for 360 games, i doubt it, seeing how difficult it was for people to create a ps2 emulator. hardware is very hard to translate.

wat

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pretty sure this is how compatability mode is handled in windows today, but that wouldn't require them to run simultaneously. as for 360 games, i doubt it, seeing how difficult it was for people to create a ps2 emulator. hardware is very hard to translate.

PS2 emulation was hard for amateurs working backwards from a complete system. The company that actually built the thing knows a whole lot better how it works and what calls exist that need to be interpreted etc. than fans without insider info.

just for the record, this will not be an issue, at all, for microsoft to make, or for a windows 8 machine to handle at the same time as running the java vm, playing quake, solitaire and pirates of new horizons in internet explorer on 4 different screens. You gotta keep in mind that the xbox 360 hardware is old as fuck, and it wont surprise me if a lot of the xbox 360 can run on windows phones in 3~5 years.