Quote from blackdogDoes it matter? I don't think that Peter Jackson invented the whole part about the dragon taking over dwarf-land for the gold... it's just bullshit no matter how you spin it.
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Does it matter? I don't think that Peter Jackson invented the whole part about the dragon taking over dwarf-land for the gold... it's just bullshit no matter how you spin it.
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Explain it to me, that's the most ridiculous ever heard. Like 5 year old grade fable material...
In My Little Pony dragons hoard emeralds. Seems more realistic to me.
Why don't you explain it to me? Seriously, I will never feel compelled to read the book if the whole premise for the whole saga is such a simplistic and pretestuous reason.
LOTR was another thing, I want to read those books, but this seems like Disney stuff. Not only from a story standpoint, but they event threw in the musical part right at the beginning... hell the whole movie looks like a cartoon with the aformentioned art direction.
Just finished watching it. I even made the effort to start it from the beginning last night… I didn't get into it. It's too Disney.
When it finally was getting some rhythm, they had to blow things up to wow the 3D audience and come up with these too far stretched sequences. They had the bottomless pits in LOTR, they didn't fell into it to survive 500 meters downfalls. Multiple times.
Seriously this is too much. This is were a movie turns into a cartoon.
Don't go drone one me, I remember half of the people here when this came out criticising it. Plus it's below 6/10 on Metacritic as well.
I'll watch The Desolation Of Smaug later.
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On another note, Homeland –watched another episode while dining– seems good.
The Hobbit movies are pretty generic and actiony, but the book is well worth a read. It is primarily a children's book but it's a great adventure. Lord of the Rings is like the serious version of The Hobbit 
Never liked LOTR much, so not bothered about The Hobbit films.. I'll watch them when they're on tv or if a DVD goes on at a friend's house.
Just done with Homeland episode 10...
Poor Fara
Quote from PogoPThe Hobbit movies are pretty generic and actiony, but the book is well worth a read. It is primarily a children's book but it's a great adventure. Lord of the Rings is like the serious version of The Hobbit
Now it makes much more sense. Thanks Liam!I'm going to (try) watching Desolation Of Smaug as soon as I find some cocoa in my suster's cupboards…
Quote from duxYou're judging a book from 1937 on a modern day film interpritation. No need for that.
You might be right, but LOTR seems much more adult (as Liam just said above)… I simply said the very most inception is extremely childish and sorry if I can't buy into that. I'm not arguing the book is good… the Grimm's fables are good, but they are for kids! You read them for what they are, if you read them now. I was baffled that an epic saga like LOTR boils down to a greedy dragon, wasn't expecting that.As an aside, I know that the "you're going ignorant" was benevolent on your part (I hope), but I was reading The Odyssey, Iliad and Count Of Monte Cristo when my peers were considered readers if they read Mickey Mouse comics so… I'm not sticking feathers to my bum pretending to be a peacock, but just sayin' where I come from.
Watched the "Equalizer" and "The Man from nowhere" in the same day, without having a single clue what was the story of each, quite fun to see that they are very similar !
The Equalizer is meh... Not worth to see in theater. While the man from nowhere is the kind of movie asian I like : it sure has some flaws but i can deal with it as far as they are sincere in their moves (and i recommend to see it in VO, french dub was really odd).
Quote from blackdogWhy don't you explain it to me? Seriously, I will never feel compelled to read the book if the whole premise for the whole saga is such a simplistic and pretestuous reason.
LOTR was another thing, I want to read those books, but this seems like Disney stuff. Not only from a story standpoint, but they event threw in the musical part right at the beginning... hell the whole movie looks like a cartoon with the aformentioned art direction.
Since you seem to be sincere:
In folktales, dragon's blood often contains magical properties. For example, in the opera Siegfried, dragon's blood allows Siegfried to understand the language of the Forest Bird. The typical dragon protects a cavern or castle filled with gold and treasure and is often associated with a great hero who tries to slay it.
They lived in subterranean halls, believed to be full of gold and precious stones.
Both are well rooted in ancient mythology and folklore.
So The Hobbit made perfect sense in that regard. Plus, if you were driven from your home, wouldn't you do everything to get it back?
Think I was trolling? XD
Never said anything against the dwarves wanting to take back their land… I said it's too stretched that Gandalf drops in Bilbo and force him in the adventure without no reason: is not like they had other adventures before and he could rely on him, Bilbo barely remembers the wizard!
Didn't know about the dragon legends, so can just take that into account, but still don't like it.
Anyway, its objective to say that the movies are incredibly watered down and should have been two at best.
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I'm in the cinema to see chapter 3.
Edit: just back home from the cinema, probably because the good amount of war scenes I liked this best.
I'm currently watching mapcore getting spammed
Quote from blackdogI said it's too stretched that Gandalf drops in Bilbo and force him in the adventure without no reason: is not like they had other adventures before and he could rely on him, Bilbo barely remembers the wizard!
That's because he knows what Hobbits are capable of. It's the same reason Frodo is chosen in LOTR to be the Ring Bearer.
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I can't believe this movie is 30 years old. The last time I've seen it is over 14 years ago and I had to rent it on VHS. I've seen it hundreds of times growing up and last night I watched it again on Netflix. After all these decades it still holds a special place in my heart. Sure, the effects are dated, some of dialog and acting are corny but overall it remains an adventure worth experiencing. Now, I was also finally able to pick up on its message about losing your sense of imagination when growing up. Which is so true, because when you get older your heart dies a little and that innocence is lost.
That's because he knows what Hobbits are capable of. It's the same reason Frodo is chosen in LOTR to be the Ring Bearer. No that's totally different, was kinda a forced choice since the ring was already in their family/house, also he knows the family at that moment and I think it's logic to say he can trust Frodo.
Anyway I have to admit that lot of things make sense at the end of the trilogy, and in light of The Hobbit being a kids book, the thing about the "dragon sickness" is educational, if you know what I mean.
Quote from blackdogNo that's totally different, was kinda a forced choice since the ring was already in their family/house, also he knows the family at that moment and I think it's logic to say he can trust Frodo.
I disagree. Just because it's there and he knows them doesn't automatically guarantee that Frodo would be a good ring bearer or that he can't withstand the power of the precious. No, Gandalf is old and wise and I believe that he does things for a reason. Hence, asking Bilbo was a calculated move on his part or so I reckon.
Ronal the Barbarian
Good parody of animated hero movies
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