Say NO to low FOV Petition - (Idea)

although i agree completly from a gameplay perspective

alot of these games are build really inefficiently if they didnt have such a narrow viewfrustum culling they wouldnt even be able to run at he 25-30 fps that they do !

my importance scale is:

fps > fov

exactly Warby, low FOV considerably helps performance. Although I also agree its not an ideal solution for actual gamers.

When we see the next consoles and theres a marked improvement in hardware/software speed you can be sure FOV will increase again, to start with at least

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uh, maybe not... well in any case, fov for gameplay should be adjustable, though i love working with fov 5 to 25 for cutscenes

I always play arma2 with the maximum allowed FOV, just makes it looks even more awesome. Going back to the narrow FOV makes me feel claustrophobic.

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When we see the next consoles and theres a marked improvement in hardware/software speed you can be sure FOV will increase again, to start with at least

I think no, you will have really high tesselation on wood fibre and still 50fov and 25-30 fps

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I think no, you will have really high tesselation on wood fibre and still 50fov and 25-30 fps

Yeah, what that guy said.

But I like to see the world through a tube.

If tesselation is used correctly it should have about the same cost as without (when working with direct x 10-11-12) my guess is the next generation tesselation will be used for less than half of a scene, and that's if you're making natural themed environments.

Crysis 2 is 55, but we played around with all sorts of values. IMO going higher than 65 just looks wrong to me for an FPS anyway. Dunno maybe I'm just used to it now.

I don't think tessellation is gonna be the thing that forces the FOV down in the future, but once you get more videomemory and stuff in consoles, that stuff will immediately be spent on....higher resolution crates and barrels. The graphical standard will go up, but the FOV will remain where it is now, because the graphical standard went up

I'll be honest with you, I've never had a real problem with FOV in any game, I'm playing Dead Space currently with it's controversial FOV settings and it hasn't bothered me one bit. I seem to be in the minority here clearly...

This is the one thing that pisses me off the most about console ports and just developer attitude in general. Low fov's DO NOT WORK on 16:10/16:9 widescreen ratios. So far I've had trouble with:

Dead Space due to low FOV causing me motion sickness so I've been unable to play it again or finish it. What a waste of money that was.

Bioshock gave me headaches from its low FOV but it was just too darn good to not finish.

Borderlands I had to literally go and change all of the game settings to even get to work on a PC but was rewarded with good fun, but was really annoyed that I had to even modify anything.

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I'll be honest with you, I've never had a real problem with FOV in any game, I'm playing Dead Space currently with it's controversial FOV settings and it hasn't bothered me one bit. I seem to be in the minority here clearly...

Are you playing on PC or console? I don't mind narrow FOV in console games, but it's horrible in PC games.

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This makes me sick. 55?!?! Are you F*ing kidding?!?! This is why I have to seriously look at EA's games with a microscope before buying them now. I like the original Crysis, but I will definitely pass if version 2 is locked to 55...

console commands. they do exist.

basically it's like this:

a pc gamer at the end of the 90s (1998) would be sitting 20 cm away from his screen and playing for the sake of a fun and fast shooter. do the triangulation:

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back in the day we were sitting closer to our screens, making a higher fov feel natural. keep in mind the today console gamer is sitting 2 to 4 meters away from his screen - a more narrow fov actually feels more natural.

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basically it's like this:a pc gamer at the end of the 90s (1998) would be sitting 20 cm away from his screen and playing for the sake of a fun and fast shooter. do the triangulation:

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back in the day we were sitting closer to our screens, making a higher fov feel natural. keep in mind the today console gamer is sitting 2 to 4 meters away from his screen - a more narrow fov actually feels more natural.

It's kind of a silly standard to stick to, given that the first group hasn't really gone away, simply that the usages are more diverse. It seems to me as in a similar category of usability as the availability of southpaw or inverted control schemes, or color blind support.

Also the original argument against FOV in the OP was that low FOV inspires motion sickness in some people, I thought. I thankfully don't get that, though I remember the first time my dad saw Spyro the Dragon on the PS1 when I was playing it in middle school, me charging around made him throw up

well, my screen has evolved from a 13" crt to a 27" tft which i need to sit further away from just for seeing everything. for me the 60 degrees feel ok. keep in mind we are also going away from the "you are the hero in the game"-gameplay to "you are the camera in this interactive movie"-gameplay. As Gordon Freeman you are responsible for what happens in Black Mesa and all feedback goes directly to the player. As the 500th Seargent in Call of Duty you are basically a camera in an epic battle which gets blood splashes on the screen, chromatic aberations when hurt and a depth of field on what ever the game wants you to look at. choosing more film-like fov is a stylistic descision bound to that kind of gameplay.

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Yes, but not all of us play the same way. If we did, this wouldn't be an issue and now that you have mentioend crysis 2 is in 55 fov, will this apply to the PC version as well? Am I going to have to go and modify my game again to get an experience that doesn't make me ill?

I need 80 to 120 fov to be able to play a game without feeling any form of nausea. Very, very rarely can I play a game with something lower.