The Dark Knight Rises

I love Nolans Batman movies because he makes them more serious and brings them closer to reality (i.m.ho.), i think he is one of the best directors right now. Inception was just fantastic, and before i saw it i heard people talking about the goddam ending being gay, but it´s pretty clear to me how it ended.

I can´t wait for the next Batman movie. I just hope he does not bring that gay kid Robin into the picture... Or catwoman..

The dark knight IS awesome b.t.w.. Ledger´s Joker is simply great acting.. Hate Bale´s Batman voice tho, sounds really fucking gay!

It's the "closer to reality" thing that kills it for me. I like the approach, it is just poorly executed. It tries to be realistic and then some completely nonsensical/asinine/impossible thing happens which completely breaks the flow and immersion of it for me. Every five minutes I would be saying "what?! what the fuck just happened? Why did he do that? Why didn't they just... ? STOP BEING A FUCKTARD, BATMAN!!"

He came off as just an idiot with a lot of money to me, the guys who dressed up in "hockey pants" and went fighting crime were more interesting and inspiring to me than some phenomenal idiot rolling around in millions of dollars worth of gear and CONSTANTLY fucking up, and groveling about how cruel life is. I want to kick him in his throat, maybe it'd dislodge that cement mixer he tried to deepthroat.

Rant over. Enjoy the sequel

Surprised i'm not the only one who doesn't like it. Usualy on mapcore i'm the only rogue who hates on other peoples favourite movie

I really like both This should be sweet!

Big fan of both myself. I'm not going to go so far as to say they're the best movies ever or anything like that because there're literally dozens of supremely fine movies I could never choose between, but they're definitely a superb pair of films. I know hype makes a lot of people feel almost obligated to hate something, but there's really not that much to criticise about them. I really enjoyed them as someone who's never particularly been a Batman fan and felt they communicated their relatively complicated plots well.

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I'm not wearing hockey pants.

*pads

I guess the throat cancer gets hard to understand sometimes!

All these years... I thought he was saying pants

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Big fan of both myself. I'm not going to go so far as to say they're the best movies ever or anything like that because there're literally dozens of supremely fine movies I could never choose between, but they're definitely a superb pair of films. I know hype makes a lot of people feel almost obligated to hate something, but there's really not that much to criticise about them. I really enjoyed them as someone who's never particularly been a Batman fan and felt they communicated their relatively complicated plots well.

I concur

The reason I didn't like TDK has nothing to do with it being a bad film. I don't think it's possible to call TDK a bad film considering the amount of people and talent involved with a huge project like that. TDK is a modern work of art in terms of scale and technical difficulty.

The problem is about 2 or 3 years ago I started reading lots of old books, watching lots of old movies and generally forcing myself into new discussions and ideas I wouldn't have found if I didn't actively seek them out. Take The Matrix or Donnie Darko for example. For 15 year old Duffy those movies were mind blowing, I mean no one in casual conversation ever brought up the philosophical and existential questions surrounding life. It helped that there were lots of explosions and guns but at the end of the day it was about the provocative questions.

Now after reading works by authors like Dostoevsky, Goethe, Shakespeare, Heidegger, Foucault, etc, It's hard to sit through a film like TDK and be engaged during the pseudo-philosophically stimulating question of "will the convicts blow up the other ship" game. It doesn't even matter that it's been done it's just the approach is so heavy handed and lame it's hard to not roll your eyes. I think back on films like The Matrix and I'm not embarrassed by my love for that film because it put me on my current path. I do wish someone would have said to me after I said I liked the matrix "yeah you liked that? well try THIS" instead of spending 2 or 3 years thinking that the height of intellectualism is "am I living in the matrix?" I'm not saying that any of you thought exactly like me but I think it's an equivalent situation. You're putting TDK in your top 5, 10 or 20 because based on what you've been exposed to it legitimately belongs there, you're not stupid or "hollywood/mainstream."

This is why I get nothing out of films like district 9, inception and TDK. The reason I can sit through them is because of what they bring to the table technically but in terms of story content it reminds me of trying to read a book like Ender's Game where I'm accurately guessing what's going to happen on every other page. I totally can see why people who read it when they were 13, 14, 15 still love it. It did what it needed to do for that person at that time in their life. I'm sure there are people who look at the things that I'm reading or thinking about and find them to be juvenile, boring or unnecessary. All I'm saying is I think people who find a film like TDK interesting or provocative are more intelligent than your average person and would see what haters saw if they spent some time with pure unfiltered genius instead of sloppy contemporary rehashes. With my current view on information I find myself seeking out people who question or shit on my interests, not because I'm looking for some mythical right answer or because I want to be a smart ass but because it's a new lens to see the world through. I don't throw away the lenses either, instead I just collect them and use them when applicable.

TLDR; Challenge yourself. TDK is a good film for Hollywood but if you like it I guarantee your time could be better spent elsewhere.

It never occured to me until now that people regarded The Dark Knight as a great film because of its philisophical content.

I wouldn't read too much into what I said about the philosophical part, I was mostly talking about The Matrix there. With TDK the issue is its "thought provoking/deep" story.

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the problem with two face was (and is) that his character was missing depth. dedicating an entire movie to a guy with basically a gimmick and nothing else would be 10 minutes of plot spread out over 90 minutes of film. i'm glad they included him, and i have to say that he's one of the better things about TDK (apart from the joker, obviously). the entire movie builds up to him turning into two face, and then going the way of dodo.

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With TDK the issue is its "thought provoking/deep" story.

Or that. The boat scene is the worst part of the movie right after that thinly veiled invasion of privacy scene with Morgan Freeman in the monitor room. Shit was terrible.

And I like the movie.

Sorry but I think these Batman movies are among the most overrated movies of the 2000s. :embarrassed:

Tim Burton's Batmans FTW!

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Sorry but I think these Batman movies are among the most overrated movies of the 2000s. :embarrassed:Tim Burton's Batmans FTW!

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Anyways, i quite liked the old batman movies and I liked the new ones. I feel for all of you that didnt think it was awesome, because thinking something awesome is awesome is an awesome feeling

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[email protected], i quite liked the old batman movies and I liked the new ones. I feel for all of you that didnt think it was awesome, because thinking something awesome is awesome is an awesome feeling

Don't feel bad for me, I have an enormous list of movies I love! TDK is simply not one of them

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[email protected], i quite liked the old batman movies and I liked the new ones. I feel for all of you that didnt think it was awesome, because thinking something awesome is awesome is an awesome feeling

I didn't say I hate the movies. I just think they are overrated. The Dark Knight ranked #2 on IMDB's top 250 when it released. [Blocked Image: https://migrationtest.mapcore.org/public/style_emoticons/default/mapcore_smilies/emot_shakehead.gif]