WIP in WIP, post your level screenshots!

mr.P · October 15, 2015 at 11:50 AM

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Nice, I wonder how the towers will look and play like.

thanks

me2, the only tower reachable is the one in the last pic, still debating with myself if I should remove the other towers to avoid confusion

will2k · October 16, 2015 at 10:07 AM

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after some r&r slacking I'm back in biz...this heat remake is sure taking some time, but we are almost there...a few screens from the latest compile

P, this looks sick AF :-D; spot on composition.

You should consider switching this into an Insurgency map in the future; the theme fits perfectly well.

mr.P · October 16, 2015 at 12:51 PM

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P, this looks sick AF :-D; spot on composition.
You should consider switching this into an Insurgency map in the future; the theme fits perfectly well.

thanks

ye, perhaps, going to see how it turns out, then perhaps redo something similar for Insurgency, been a while since I played it and it might be fun to do something else than csgo

slavikov4 · October 16, 2015 at 4:55 PM

omg

Tensei · October 19, 2015 at 6:11 PM

Just playing around.

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kinggambit · October 19, 2015 at 8:43 PM

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Anyways, I'd appreciate some advice on what I need to improve on. The suggestions on giving the environment more shadows definitely helped make the map less ugly. Not sure if enough though:

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Areas I'm not as proud of at the moment:

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mr.P · October 20, 2015 at 9:42 AM

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Anyways, I'd appreciate some advice on what I need to improve on. The suggestions on giving the environment more shadows definitely helped make the map less ugly. Not sure if enough though:

been a while since I tested this map, looks like its coming along good, are the screen taken from a final compile? (-staticproppolys -textureshadows -staticproplighting etc) and do you have any cc?

its still feels a little dark, think its the combination of the skymap and the wood textures, perhaps try to crank up the light environment, but it might also just be that you need to run it in final compile and/or add a cc (or add reflective to some textures

cloudy

bright day

night

overall simplify the brushwork and swapping some textures might also be helpful

since it looks like its placed high up in the mountains it would be cool to have some type of plateau or vista point

also looks like you have good amount of details in the interiors, so perhaps tune it down in the outside areas, a simple thing would be to remove the weeds from the ponds (but keep the lotus), might also help to turn a few of the ponds into sand gardens,

bonus: it's a Korean temple if I remember correct(?), I'm totally going to nerd out and say that you should incorporate the following areas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Bu…#Typical_Layout

tomm · October 20, 2015 at 10:40 AM

+1 sand garden, that water was always bugging me. Although isn't that a japanese thing? Mixing different asian cultures is pretty ignorant and it happens way too often.

kinggambit · October 20, 2015 at 1:38 PM

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been a while since I tested this map, looks like its coming along good, are the screen taken from a final compile? (-staticproppolys -textureshadows -staticproplighting etc) and do you have any cc?

Yeah, it was my first final compile with HDR. A lot more lighting issues than I thought. I have some lighting tweaks to do (and add CC!)

Wooh! Thanks for the solid feedback! Lots of good ideas. Excited to get as many of those ideas into my map.

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+1 sand garden, that water was always bugging me. Although isn't that a japanese thing? Mixing different asian cultures is pretty ignorant and it happens way too often.

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It's hard to say though. I'm admittedly ignorant and did research as I went along. There's some distinct differences I've found but there's a lot of similarities as well.

I want to try the rock garden at mid but korean gardens dont have that "zen garden in a box" style as japan's

(granted, lack of planning forced my layout at mid to be rectangular and less naturally shaped)

tomm · October 20, 2015 at 2:41 PM

yeah I was referring to the sand garden being a japanese thing but I could be wrong.

will2k · October 20, 2015 at 6:33 PM

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Tensei · October 20, 2015 at 7:21 PM

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So much reminds me of DOD:S style

mr.P · October 20, 2015 at 10:26 PM

you know you are close to release when making the overview img, anyways don't mind the background on the loading screen that will be changed once the map is done, was hoping some friend could hook me up with some pimped out img...

was concerned about the file size, but after some opting its down to 71 mb (without any severe quality loss) and that includes keeping the 4096 backdrop texture

you guys can test it here (there are some obvious bugs etc) http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/fi…s/?id=446241636

got some clipping and minor tweaks left before the pitchforks can rip it apart,

once its done and released I will remove the public access for the map and keep it private for testing,

(screens are taken on potato laptop)

Vaya · October 20, 2015 at 11:41 PM

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Biggest issue imo is the lack of shadowing/contast on certain props. Seems brighter than the surface of the sun in areas due to this

Very nice apart from that! I like

mr.P · October 21, 2015 at 9:18 AM

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Biggest issue imo is the lack of shadowing/contast on certain props. Seems brighter than the surface of the sun in areas due to this
Very nice apart from that! I like

spanks,

lets hope we get ssao on models for christmas! the balconies and windows pops a little for me, was hoping not having to bake ao for the wall props since they all share the same material, but if it has to be done it has to be done,

also noticed that some of the polys on the siderwalks and some barriers are lit incorrect, disabling vertex lightning might solve that,

RivFader · October 21, 2015 at 9:22 AM

Haha, that Pasha graffiti. I really like the middle area, looks stunning. However, I am not sure if the removal of the towers was a good idea. Sure, they were a bit gimmicky but they had a unique flavour to it. What kind of ideas did you have in mind while designing the remake and why did you choose these in the end? I am curious.

will2k · October 21, 2015 at 10:29 AM

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So much reminds me of DOD:S style

Les évènements de cette carte se déroulent dans un petit village Breton au nord de la France et puisque...Ooops, excuse my French

So yeah, as I was saying :-D, the map is based on old villages in the region of Bretagne (mainly Locronan and Saint-Suliac among others)

Locronan

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Saint-Suliac

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The action in DOD:S takes place in Normandie among other places, and Normandie is right next to Bretagne...:) hence the somehow similar architectural style (I'm not taking reference from DOD though)

Vaya · October 21, 2015 at 10:52 AM

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spanks,
lets hope we get ssao on models for christmas! the balconies and windows pops a little for me, was hoping not having to bake ao for the wall props since they all share the same material, but if it has to be done it has to be done,
also noticed that some of the polys on the siderwalks and some barriers are lit incorrect, disabling vertex lightning might solve that,

The missile launcher thing is another example of this. It seems to have some form of self-shadowing (going by your screenshots above- at work so I can't check in game) but it seems kinda weak. not sure if pumping up the shadow control would help if these are just dynamic ones?

mr.P · October 21, 2015 at 12:36 PM

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The missile launcher thing is another example of this. It seems to have some form of self-shadowing (going by your screenshots above- at work so I can't check in game) but it seems kinda weak. not sure if pumping up the shadow control would help if these are just dynamic ones?

ya, will see what I can do, that mesh is wee headache because of collision etc, so will probably need a little rework, amt I'm pretty antsy to start with the next project

anyways, the latest addition is the heat hotel landmark, similar to the bell tower in inferno it can be seen from most key areas in the map, and will hopefully help with navigation