Prometheus

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    Saw Aliens a couple months ago and found it pretty lackluster, James Cameron was written all over it.

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    loads of clichés, hollywood plot

    Yes but that's the thing, Aliens was one of those films that first established that kind of gung-ho, action-packed witty/cringe-worthy dialogue that many many films have copied since (in inferior ways). People were expecting a direct sequel to Alien in the same slow-paced horror cinematic capture but they got something completely different. So as a result many people don't like Aliens... but then many people like Aliens and dislike Alien.. it's all down to what you like. Still, Aliens is a definite classic to it's predecessor in much the same way as Terminator 2 is to The Terminator.

    I forgot to say, Noomi Rapace running around half-naked was hawt, regardless of all the blood and 'slime', got quite a body on her

    The good thing about aliens as a sequel is that it's an excellent stand alone movie too. It brings plenty of new stuff to the table and doesn't just repeat the previous.

    That's one of the reasons people don't like Prometheus, there was far too much expectation of a direct story continuation (like all of the confusion about the ending leading into alien when really it doesn't really) and there was expectation of style continuation.

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    I forgot to say, Noomi Rapace running around half-naked was hawt, regardless of all the blood and 'slime', got quite a body on her

    Yeeeaaah the underwear was all super weird though. The whole belt-across-the-boobs thing is just odd.

    I'm just gunna mention fassbender again. The beginning 20 minutes before he woke anyone up, wowser.

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    I was expecting to be scared. At least for 2 minutes.

    The

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    giant squid facehugger

    did that for me. But the "oh god oh god oh god" tension was wasted

    um i enjoyed it (not having seen neither alien nor aliens). so i understand there is a lot of bullshit in the cohesion department that i'm unaware of, and that's basically not doing anything for me either way.

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    what annoyed me was fififiifiddleleyfieldfi whatever the fuck his name was and company were such obvious fucking idiots. "hey let's go back ALONE through this HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT that could potentially EASILY kill us". no real scientists would ever take that chance, and that really ruins one aspect of the movie for me. it would have been much more convincing also if they sent in PROBES first, then lost communication with the probes during the storm, and AFTERWARDS found that the probes were malfunctioning or some shit, sending crew out to patch them up. because THAT'S WHAT SCIENTISTS DO; they NEVER send humans in first, and they ALWAYS think of everything beforehand (INCLUDING checking atmosphere levels etc). in general it seems a lot of things in the film could have been averted if the character just weren't complete dumbasses and used common sense. but yeah apart from that and the RUNNING IN A STRAIGHT LINE WHEN THERE'S A NARROW CIRCULAR OBJECT FOLLOWING YOU scene, it was pretty enjoyable.

    please hollywood, don't make scientists out to be dumbasses, they're potentially saving your ass every day by averting various of kinds of bullshit, so don't give them that.

    Saw it on Monday and I enjoyed it, not perfect by any means by an entertaining watch. The main thing that bugged me was that

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    they spoilt the ship crashing scene in the trailers, and that was the big finale!

    The opening was great. Score was great. Rapace and Fassbender were great. Thing is it feels like 40 minutes are missing from this fucking thing. If there isn't a directors cut in the future I'll eat my hat.

    Thoroughly enjoyed this film even if it did leave a lot of questions open. Wasn't too sure about the scene at the very end. It felt like the writers were like, "Shit. We need to tie this directly into Alien somehow."

    Anyway, my favourite things:


    • [*:2jcwl4vq] The Visuals - Everything had a very realistic quality, everything seemed believable. It makes a nice change from every other movie which overuses CGI effects to the point of making everything seem false.
      [*:2jcwl4vq] That
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    scene. Jesus.
    [*:2jcwl4vq] Michael Fassbender's performance.
    [*:2jcwl4vq] When

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    they're all caught outside in the storm and David has to rescue them, I noticed how his body is completely rigid whilst the other two are flailing about in the wind.

    Thought it was a nice detail.

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    Just saw it a second time with my dad for fathers day (yay) and a whole lot more made sense the second time around, turns out there's pretty much nothing the internet is complaining about that isn't clear.

    Fifield and the biologist reaaallly don't change character at all like everyone is complaining about. Fifield is always a pussy, he still got lost even though HE made the map but I can easily attribute that to the state of panic he was in. The biologist is quite understandably more ok with a small snake thing that a huge dead person shaped thing (presumably he also knows if they run from the living biology, it may well chase them, so attempts to make nice with it).

    The whole vikers as weyland's daughter gives the whole trio (inc. david) a whole load more reason, she's a bitch because weyland loves david and ignores her, weyland's character is instantly deamonized as we realise he's shunned his daughter in favour of a robot (understandable) and David suddenly has the parallel between him and his "sister" both wanting their parent dead.

    Lots of people complained about Janek's sudden "it's all weapons" spiel and shaw changing her actions based on it, but she said the engineers weren't what they thought they were and that they had to leave before Janek says anything to her, so that whole issue is removed, she'd already made up her mind.

    Another criticism is the two co-pilots give up their lives without anyone explaining to them the stakes, however it's not hard to assume Janek filled them in after talking with Shaw, and then they already know their options are explode in taking down the engineer ship, or suffer two years in the crashed lifeboat with vickers-bitch-face before starving to death or suffocating. NOT a hard choice!

    Then there's the "Why do they want to kill us" question, it's pretty clear from the start that the invitation isn't "Hey come party with us" it's actually "Hey, come worship us". and when they get there, even if the engineers hadn't already decided to go kill humanity that the first contact scene soon changed that. The Engineer gets out of his pod and looks at the ensemble in front of him, he then bows down and waits for them to do the same. None of them do. Not until one of the lackies hits Shaw in the stomach does anyone drop to their knees. (Comments about her running around fine with a stomach full of staples are also BS as she'd falling all over the place). The engineer then rises and david tells them why they're there "We're greedy little humans that want to serve ourselves only and live forever" totally at odds to the way of life of the engineer (a life of self sacrifice) and then he kills them all. When he sees Shaw running he chooses not to pursue, presumably because she alone had the respect to bow when he did.

    I can't reconcile what was going through David's mind as he poisoned holloway, but I can at least see it as an act well within David's character, he's a tinkerer. He touches and plays with everything he can to understand it. I can set aside my confusion because I know that David read the text on the door to the vase chamber, so I can believe (quite within reason too) that he understands the purpose of the vases and the black goo without telling anyone.

    Most of Redlettermedia's questions are either asinine (Why do some Earth lifeforms not share DNA with us, weeeell pretty much everything shares some level of genetic code with us), answered by stringing a few slightly subtle things together or just answerable with "Eh sometimes movies are dumb" (like running in a straight line instead of sideways).

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    Fifield and the biologist reaaallly don't change character at all like everyone is complaining about. Fifield is always a pussy, he still got lost even though HE made the map but I can easily attribute that to the state of panic he was in. The biologist is quite understandably more ok with a small snake thing that a huge dead person shaped thing (presumably he also knows if they run from the living biology, it may well chase them, so attempts to make nice with it).

    I partially agree. Anyone can get spooked by huge, twisted and decaying beings. But getting lost and getting all social with those creatures just felt a bit odd.

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    The whole vikers as weyland's daughter gives the whole trio (inc. david) a whole load more reason, she's a bitch because weyland loves david and ignores her, weyland's character is instantly deamonized as we realise he's shunned his daughter in favour of a robot (understandable) and David suddenly has the parallel between him and his "sister" both wanting their parent dead.

    It wasn't so much that she was his daughter but the way it was revealed; I felt really bad when she uttered that f word.

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    Lots of people complained about Janek's sudden "it's all weapons" spiel and shaw changing her actions based on it, but she said the engineers weren't what they thought they were and that they had to leave before Janek says anything to her, so that whole issue is removed, she'd already made up her mind.

    For me, that comment seemed to be a way for the writers to get everyone, including dimwitted yanks ( ), aboard the plot-train. You knew it was a weapons/general evilness facility and Janek had to yell that at viewers who weren't paying attention. But I have no problem with him drawing that conclusion. He saw what the crew saw via live-feed and it was pretty obvious for anyone to know what kind of place it was.

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    Another criticism is the two co-pilots give up their lives without anyone explaining to them the stakes, however it's not hard to assume Janek filled them in after talking with Shaw, and then they already know their options are explode in taking down the engineer ship, or suffer two years in the crashed lifeboat with vickers-bitch-face before starving to death or suffocating. NOT a hard choice!

    It's never shown or indicated and even if they had discussed it, you'd probably not accept that fate as readily.

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    Then there's the "Why do they want to kill us" question, it's pretty clear from the start that the invitation isn't "Hey come party with us" it's actually "Hey, come worship us". and when they get there, even if the engineers hadn't already decided to go kill humanity that the first contact scene soon changed that. The Engineer gets out of his pod and looks at the ensemble in front of him, he then bows down and waits for them to do the same. None of them do. Not until one of the lackies hits Shaw in the stomach does anyone drop to their knees. (Comments about her running around fine with a stomach full of staples are also BS as she'd falling all over the place). The engineer then rises and david tells them why they're there "We're greedy little humans that want to serve ourselves only and live forever" totally at odds to the way of life of the engineer (a life of self sacrifice) and then he kills them all. When he sees Shaw running he chooses not to pursue, presumably because she alone had the respect to bow when he did.

    Come worship us at our weapons facility?

    A few things are really good in this movie. The dialogue with the engineer and the surgery scene are among them. If you want to go all-in conspiracy theory, David programmed the star map in the pilot room to earth and provoked the engineer to bring doom to us.

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    I can't reconcile what was going through David's mind as he poisoned holloway, but I can at least see it as an act well within David's character, he's a tinkerer. He touches and plays with everything he can to understand it. I can set aside my confusion because I know that David read the text on the door to the vase chamber, so I can believe (quite within reason too) that he understands the purpose of the vases and the black goo without telling anyone.

    I didn't have any problems with the posioning; it is something David could do imho. Perhaps some emotions are dawning within David and since Holloway was a total dick earlier, this came as a weird form of "revenge". And, as you say, David is curious and probably does not see morality in the same light as us humans. He was a kid with a new toy and wanted to play with it, basically.

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    Most of Redlettermedia's questions are either asinine (Why do some Earth lifeforms not share DNA with us, weeeell pretty much everything shares some level of genetic code with us), answered by stringing a few slightly subtle things together or just answerable with "Eh sometimes movies are dumb" (like running in a straight line instead of sideways).

    While I agree some questions are really dumb, most of them have a point.

    Saw it yesterday in IMax 3D, really liked it. Of course it's not a perfect movie but was pretty enjoyable all the way through.

    Overall one of the best sci-fi flicks in recent years imo. 8.5/10

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