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Forum restructure

  • Thrik
  • September 29, 2008 at 4:12 AM
  • Sindwiller
    • September 29, 2008 at 10:05 PM
    • #21

    Btw, my penis size (aka post count) just exploded. I think you've forgotten to leave out EOT from the post counting ^^

  • FrieChamp
    • September 30, 2008 at 10:35 AM
    • #22
    Quote from Sindwiller

    Btw, my penis size (aka post count) just exploded. I think you've forgotten to leave out EOT from the post counting ^^

    I got that feeling too!!

    [Blocked Image: http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6950/eotloltx5.jpg]

  • Thrik
    • September 30, 2008 at 10:41 AM
    • #23

    I didn't forget — that was phpBB being its classic flaky self. I had to recalculate the forum information after shuffling stuff around, and in the process phpBB helpfully added all the posts in EoT to users' post counts. It seems the 'don't increment post count' setting only kicks in at the point of being posted.

    I'll look into if there's a way this can be undone, but this is a bit of terrible coding I might not be able to work around automatically.

  • Minos
    • September 30, 2008 at 2:02 PM
    • #24

    Woah I'm the biggest mapcore spammer <3

  • -HP-
    • September 30, 2008 at 2:42 PM
    • #25

    ah ah!

  • Sentura
    • September 30, 2008 at 5:36 PM
    • #26

    i dunno im not feeling the vibe here sorry. i used to do some selective browsing, picking only forums that had a bit of my interest. now that it's all clumped together it just seems like i am omitting the 'creative' forums altogether.

  • Zacker
    • September 30, 2008 at 5:48 PM
    • #27

    I love it! The many forums were pretty much _the_ reason for me not viewing them all too often. So thanks Thrik, seems very well-structured now:)

    This title:

    Quote

    Work Release & Spotlight Nomination

    could easily have the spotlight part omitted though. Just calling it "Releases" would be fine imo:)

  • skdr
    • September 30, 2008 at 6:43 PM
    • #28

    I think special subforums (spotlight etc.) should be above the creative gallery forums.

  • Thrik
    • September 30, 2008 at 7:38 PM
    • #29
    Quote from skdr

    I think special subforums (spotlight etc.) should be above the creative gallery forums.

    I agree, and that is to be the case once the spotlight stuff is all implemented.

    I also see your point Zacker about the title of the release forum's length. For now I've shortened it because the spotlight stuff isn't in place yet (I'm hoping to get that done within the next week or so).

    I'm sorry you feel that way Sentura, but all evidence I've seen thus far (including MapCore's very detailed statistics) shows that the vast majority of people visited most of the development forums very rarely, if at all; instead, people gravitated towards the three WIP forums and the rest were almost completely ignored (we're talking 0.5–2% of MapCore's overall visits in a given month).

    If activity ever does rise to the point where sub-topics can be justified then that's certainly something I'll look into.

  • skdr
    • September 30, 2008 at 8:19 PM
    • #30

    Good! I'd like to see the spotlight stuff implemented this way. Of course, this will only work well with fixed forum width.

    [Blocked Image: http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1536/spotlighgn3.jpg]

  • RA7
    • September 30, 2008 at 9:00 PM
    • #31

    hmmm i would like it if yer spilt 3D into maps and models

    Just an id

  • skdr
    • September 30, 2008 at 9:04 PM
    • #32
    Quote from RA7

    hmmm i would like it if yer spilt 3D into maps and models

    No. That's a step backwards with the new general structure.

  • Sentura
    • October 1, 2008 at 3:09 AM
    • #33

    a step backward? since when do we distinguish between more or less advanced structures here? if anything this simpler step is one backward from a fully fledged forum. either way, implementing a subforum for each would still keep the look simple while allowing users to selectively browse forums.

    ah, who am i talking to. nobody is listening anyway.

  • wacko
    • October 1, 2008 at 3:29 AM
    • #34

    I must admit I am kinda disappointed that the engine forum has gone away... am I to assume that it now goes into 3D? because it really did not always deal with level design and modeling.

  • Thrik
    • October 1, 2008 at 10:07 AM
    • #35

    The overwhelming majority of posts in the engine discussion forum could have gone into 3D, which is indeed where you would post if it does fall under that label. In fact, less than a handful of posts in there really needed to be divided into a separate forum, with most concerning level design.

    Threads like "best game engine" and "licensing X's engine" could easily just go in Gaming Discussion — and it's not like slightly more technical threads haven't appeared in there before. Plus by posting in a more active forum you're more likely to get many rather than a few replies.

    As I said though, I will be monitoring threads and if I do notice a lot of threads are appearing which might be better suited to an individual forum then I'll do that. This is far from the first time I've worked on the way a forum is structured, and I'm pretty good at doing it in way that encourages rather than discourages new threads. The main goal here was to trim things right back so I can mould the forum structure around posting habits rather than having nine semi-dead forums that were confusingly named.

  • Sentura
    • October 1, 2008 at 10:39 AM
    • #36

    how about making it an option for each individual user, with the new forum layout as a default? i reckon you could keep the old design by letting thread creators add keywords to their threads or some such. not sure how much work would be involved.

  • Thrik
    • October 1, 2008 at 10:58 AM
    • #37

    It's not possible to have per-user forum layouts in phpBB. The closest you could theoretically get is for everyone to tag their threads with [map], [model], etc and then use the search tool to filter them, but there's no inherent way to make that mandatory.

    At this time I don't think such measures are necessary because even with all the merging, the 3D forum is still only on about 30 new threads per month, and the 2D forum is on about 10 per month — perhaps that brings home just how inactive many of those forums were. It's not a big deal to work out with a quick glance if it's a thread that interests you.

    Again, if it does get to the point where it becomes tricky to dig through the thread list then I will introduce sub-forums to aid that.

  • AlexM
    • October 2, 2008 at 4:56 AM
    • #38

    works for me

    cant believe I only just found this place

  • Sa74n
    • October 2, 2008 at 11:47 AM
    • #39

    i personally prefer the way polycount set up their boards.

    no need to split 3d and 2d. just have one board for showing off work and one for technical discussion.

    sometimes you just want to browse art and it can be annoying if the forum is mixed with other kind of threads.

  • Thrik
    • October 2, 2008 at 5:18 PM
    • #40

    That's more what the work release forum is for. The threads in the 2D/3D forum are inherently more technical because they typically consist solely of WIP work; while I do believe going even further and merging 2D and 3D could be interesting, I think that'd be a step too far for some people.

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