Silent Hill: Homecoming

It's sort of unfortunate what's happened to the series. They probably should have stopped at 3 but Konami doesn't seem to want to let it go. I don't think Homecoming will be a bad game or anything, it looks alright and will probably play well enough, I just wonder how good a Silent Hill game it'll be. From what I've gathered they've focused more on combat this time around, and really, the series is not about that at all. If anything, it's about how little you can do in the game.

I'm looking more forward to Siren for PS3 than another Silent Hill game at this point.

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and to my great delight.. PC as well.

Really? I haven't heard about that at all, stupendous news.

Though now I no longer don't care if the game isn't good. D: The news that the game will have QTEs, and is being developed by devs who have not a single good game released in the past ever (The original dev did not, and Shiny, whom they've been merged with, haven't made a good game in eight years since Sacrifice, haven't even made a meh one, or an "on par" one. They've made nothing but clunkers ) are QUITE worrying.

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It's sort of unfortunate what's happened to the series. They probably should have stopped at 3 but Konami doesn't seem to want to let it go. I don't think Homecoming will be a bad game or anything, it looks alright and will probably play well enough, I just wonder how good a Silent Hill game it'll be. From what I've gathered they've focused more on combat this time around, and really, the series is not about that at all. If anything, it's about how little you can do in the game.

I'm not sure where I've read/heard it though, but I think Silent Hill 4: The Room wasn't originally going to be a Silent Hill title, which probably explains why it's different from the previous three games.

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I'm not sure where I've read/heard it though, but I think Silent Hill 4: The Room wasn't originally going to be a Silent Hill title, which probably explains why it's different from the previous three games.

It was a Silent Hill title from the start, just originally meant to be a spin-off title called The Room. The SH4 bit got added on early in production.

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Pyramid Head in all his moviefied glory (obvious spoiler):http://www.gamersyde.com/leech_8074_en.html

1) Oh GOD, it really is Silent Hill: The Movie: The Game! Fuck fuck fuck!

2) The environmental design is pretty good, and the main character looks quite human. Like, Valve quality character model.

3) Jesus fucking christ, Pyramid Head. If there isn't a good goddamn reason for James fucking Sunderland's nightmare to be in Homecoming I'm gonna freak.

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Pyramid Head is in SH:H and it's the movie version *head desk*;

Whats wrong about that?

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Whats wrong about that?

Pyramid Head was unique to Silent Hill 2. He was specifically a manifestation of James Sunderland's psychosis. He is not a normal Silent hill entity, character, a real being, or anything else. He's just become iconic for Silent Hill fans becuase he raped some mannequins and everything likes SH2 the best. They threw PH into the movie without rhyme or reason just solely because he's cool and iconic. He made no sense being there, just like none of the shit that went on in the movie belonged there, but that was OK, that's a movie, it's not made for SH fans, it's made for movie-goers. It doesn't need to fit into the game series which is generally more thought out and significant than "This looks cool". Homecoming cribs elements from the movie without setting its own tone. It's not fitting in the series of games, it REALLY is just Silent Hill: The Movie: The Game.

I was worried that the Pyramid head would be abused as such after playing SH2 because of it's real meaning (As Jetsetlemming already explained) And as we can see... Then again, this game isn't specifically being made by Konami right? It's a US developer this time? I haven't really been following up on this one though. I'd rather much see a more true SH2/SH3-ish game by the original devs.

Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up

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Then again, this game isn't specifically being made by Konami right? It's a US developer this time? I haven't really been following up on this one though. I'd rather much see a more true SH2/SH3-ish game by the original devs.

An American dev called "Double Helix", which is two development studios merged together by their owner. Those studios were The Collective, who've made just about nothing (most notable title: the abysmal Marc Echo's Getting Up), and Shiny, who went sharply downhill in the 21st century. They haven't made a good game since 2000's Sacrifice.

Fun quote related to Marc Echo's Getting Up:

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In an interview in Metro New York,[3] Marc Ecko was outspoken in his response to these critics, describing gamers as "the guys who got wedgies in high school" and "divas" with a "predisposition to have a bug up their ass for anything urban", who dismissed the game as riding on the coat-tails of Grand Theft Auto solely for having a black character on the cover. The reviewers, he says, are "slaves to the code" and not "slaves to the branding, products, or experience" as he would prefer, and they unfairly compare the game to better-received titles, such as Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. He admits that the game was "not as precise as I would have liked to see" , blaming the game's failures on system limitations "that people just can’t understand", and that the title was "as polished as you can make it on a no-hard-drive console like the PS2".

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sacrifice is one of my personal favorites. i need to buy it again, it's such a brilliant game.

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Agreed, that game looks fucking sick. I watched gameplay videos of the original Siren games recently, man I wish they were on PC Hopefully Siren will get a PC release this time around.

I doubt it’ll get a PC release as it’s an episodic release for Playstation Network and, I think, developed by JapanStuido that are tied to Sony. I played the Siren demo off the Japanese PS3 store and I think it’s fair to say it’s far from being the new Silent Hill. It’s pretty solid as far as downloadable games go, though.

Silent Hill 2 came out on PC as well, but it was a much lesser experience. All the secrets were unlocked on the first play-through so I entered Silent Hill decked out with a chainsaw, and they put in a quickload/quicksave function (PC compulsory!) that destroyed all the tension because you were never, ever at risk.

The PC release of SH2 (Sh3 and 4 got one, too) wasn't worse than the PS2 release. The chainsaw starting unlocked thing was a bug that happened for some people, and the quicksave was optional and didn't have any effect on the game. Save spots were frequent as hell in SH2, and it wasn't at all difficult.

SH3 and 4 didn't get the quicksave and was feature-wise completely identical to the console versions.

Nobody playing the PC version would have avoided using quicksave. The problem is not that it makes the game easier, though you can't really judge the difficulty of something until after, it's that it ruins the suspense and tension: Investigating a noise or heading into some foreboding room is a lot different when you have something to lose, even if ultimately any encounter is weaksauce.

Don't get your hopes up Deads.