[WIP] mp_cc - Chechnyan Crisis [COD4]

Nice stuff! Glad to see some CoD4 stuff here on mapcore!

So tell us, how is the editor? I'm very curious to know how did Radiant evolved during all this years. I'd love to make a map for CoD4 as well.

Are you using custom content on this?

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Large Screenies:

http://www.lux3d.com/crazy/c25.jpg

http://www.lux3d.com/crazy/c24.jpg

DAMN, I love those screens!

1 grid, you're fired

Very nice vibe to the whole thing. The shot of the tractor in the field behind the hay bales may not be much but it's the best looking one of the bunch if you ask me. It's a very believable environment overall with some great structural and detail work.

The biggest thing that bugs me is the daytime lighting. Maybe you're going for overcast, and maybe it's just COD4, but it just looks so flat. I've not played with the COD4 editor myself but it looks like there's a flat ambient that might be jacked up a little too high?

What's the top-down look like, if I can ask? My time with COD so far has been all SP so I'm curious to see how you've arranged things.

Keep up the good work

edit: also your site resizes my browser, booo.

Hah, nice to see some COD4 maps. Looks pretty good. I prefer the day time version, but it might just look a tiny bit too bright (Although most COD4 maps set during daytime look like that as far as i can recall )

i am fucking around with the cod 4 tools right now and i must say they are HORRIBLE i think it would be easier to make something good looking with the hl1 tools and todays polycounts...

what i am trying to say is your map really impresses me ... it looks great dude !!!!!!!! :monocle:

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i am fucking around with the cod 4 tools right now and i must say they are HORRIBLE i think it would be easier to make something good looking with the hl1 tools and todays polycounts...what i am trying to say is your map really impresses me ... it looks great dude !!!!!!!! :monocle:

Oh yeah they really suck, i can't imagine working with them tbh.

Quote from Warby

i am fucking around with the cod 4 tools right now and i must say they are HORRIBLE i think it would be easier to make something good looking with the hl1 tools and todays polycounts...what i am trying to say is your map really impresses me ... it looks great dude !!!!!!!! :monocle:

I haven't had to screw around with tools this much since the old HL1 days. I'm still trying to figure how the hell color correction works. The game seems to rely pretty heavily on it

Neat bump!

How can anyone not like Radiant best bsp-based editor EVAR. COD4's prefab stuff integration is brilliant, too, wish we had had that on Q4 or Wolf.

Pretty cool man, specially the dusk version.

I tried some things with C4Rad either, but Infinity Ward simply vanished with the 4 viewport setup (like Max, Hammer, UED and previous versions of Radiant), which killed the editor, imho. There are other viewport options, but the most common and probably the most used, they removed. It looks like I'm mapping for Doom I.

The new layout is weird as hell for most people. I tried changing a lot of registry keys related to the camera setup and even open radiant in a resource editor, and for my surprise, the option of 4 viewports was still there, but hidden. Unfortunately making it visible and selecting it didn't worked (they ripped off the code as well =/).

That's a new layout for Radiant? It's been single-grid and z-window as long as I've ever known it, in all versions. I've never known a single person who prefers a 4-window Radiant. Most I know use UnrealEd in similar fashion. Between the ease of ctrl+tabbing, by-default 3D manipulation, and the z-window there's really never been a need to eat up that much screen space showing the same thing at the same time.

Honestly I wish Hammer was more functional in a single viewport capacity... I had one setup where the left monitor was camera and the right monitor was grid, but I was always having to reposition things and then my second monitor died. :\

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I've never known a single person who prefers a 4-window Radiant.

*walks away whistling*

awesome map! I've been messing around with the cod4 editor also, barely gotten to the level that you have accomplished here. Coming from Unreal 3, radiants navigation controls are very annoying! having to hit escape everytime to deselect a brush gets frustrating. I do like its prefabs option for bsp, and the bsp tools are sweet, oh an patches are awesome! I really miss the 4 windows from unreal 3.

I had some question

* When you were adding meshes were you getting them from the xmodel directory? because i noticed that every model that I brought in didn't have any collision associated with it, so I had to build my own collision as bsp.

* Did you build the houses first? then add the terrain? and did you have to stitch the terrain patches together once you were completed?

* Did you ever have any problems where the gun/player would be multicolored?

Thanks

-Lee

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A lot of work has gone into making this map a little less blocky thanmost COD4 maps out there...

It's still pretty overtly blocky though. Nothing wrong with straight lines but for the location and the setting it is too blocky.

The overview shows perfectly aligned walls and houses; how about rotating some of those houses, make the walls and fences follow non-straight paths (make them broken down in places to prevent a long horizontal line).

There doesn't seem to be enough grime and dirt on the houses exteriors either. Streaks of dirt or flaking paint would add alot to the ambience.

I also think the "edges" of the map are very bland. It makes for an incredibly obvious ending; I would fill these with vegetation if you are not going to have a detailed "skybox", because currently it feels incomplete.

The lighting is also tonally very much down the middle; it doesn't sway into contrasted areas. I don't know how to fix that as I am not particularly good at lighting, but perhaps check out some other CoD4 maps to see their lighting (although if I rememebr most of their lighting is quite even, rather than dramatic).

Anyway, keep at it.