I hate pacifists... 
Oh, and GreyFox, I'm pretty sure I'd be able to do it. I also think it would be my responsabillity to do so. To say I'd enjoy it was a joke. Maybe not the most suited one. Sorry for that.
Yes I would feel sick after torturing a guy but if I would be 100% sure about the fact that I could save innoncent lives with it, I do it.
That's just my view on this case.
Quote from GrayFoxWhat if you were innocent and tortured because someone thought you had information that could save people? You'd still think it's ok?
In extreme cases, say if a terrorist is arrested and is suspected that have hidden a nuclearbomb that is about to go off?
Does that mean you can still eat it when you unfreeze the cube? 
If more then one life depends on it, I'd torture the guy. No question about that.
I'd even enjoy it. 
Ok, I don't see this thread ending in a serious discussion...
A cookie to the first mod to close this thread. Either way, I'm done here. 
B bye
Killertomato: You can't be that blind that you actually believe that retarded jamber about Palestinians being suicide bombing terrorists and Israelis being some valiant heroes in shining armor?
Well, for the suicebomber part, I was not mistaking. As for the heroes, I have never said that there were only heroes on the side of Israel. Again: dicks are found on both side.
As for the propaganda part: I try not to focus too much on propaganda. Reading bare facts about the me conflict makes one perspective objective.
I know plenty of links to sites wich contain facts about the history of Israël,the palestines, the me conflict and so on. I'm not going to pass them.
I think it all comes down on what one would like to believe sometimes...
Maybe it's better to stick with the first the 'first thaught'. This may turn out to get a bit flamy I'm afraid (and I ment this on a non-suggestive way).
Cheers
Uh....more like the West is the only thing that keeps Israel from being wiped clean off the map. They receive heavy support from European and American governments. They're like the little brother of a hulking, huge, gun-toting big brother. The little punk can hurl names at his enemies and talk big knowing that behind him is the looming sillohoutte of his protector.
That absolutely not true.
1st Arab-Israeli War: Israeli War of Independence
Israël was being attacked by Arab armaies from six (!!!) different nations.
They did not recieve any help from neither europe or america. Almost wiped of the map.
6th Arab-Israeli War: The Yom Kippur War (or Ramaddan War)
A surprise attack on the Jewish National Yom Kippur holiday. One of the most infamous and cowardous attacks ever to take place in history...
Egypt and Syria attacked Israël (with some aid from Iraq). Israël was facing a very heavy overkill of Arab forces. The total extermination of the entire Israëli state had become reallity, yet europe and americe did not help.
So much for a big brother ey?
Also I don't agree to when you say they are killing eachother pretty indiscriminately. That's also an absolute lie. Of course accidents happen and yes, there are dicks on both side, unfortunatly. But I do believe there's a incredible difference between blowing yourself up in a bus while being concious of the fact that there a children in it. Heck, even pregnant woman...
What bothers me too is the fact that all Arab nations would like to see all Israelis drowned in their own blood (yes, that's like qouted from several important political headfigures from Arab nations), they refuse to help theire palestinian brothers. What? Egypt even bombed their won refugeecamps! And Libanon? Well, when the PLO became to powerful and started making threats to the lebanee goverment. They (the PLO) got massacred.
That's just my 2 cents.
Comments?
Someone else would like to comment? :-|
Quote from kleinlukalooks cool. I'd play it just for the nostalgia effect and to see how you guys re-created black mesa and made it hot.
+1
Thanks for making your point.
Note that I am not coming to tell you anything. Relax.
Interesting...
Oh, and postman, I think you might be overlooking a little difference in the attacks:
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My opinion on htis case is that Israël is the terrorismbuffer between the middleeast and the west. Not a very grateful job at the moment.
Kosmo, I expected a more grounded reply from you. 
Palestinians mourn Jihad leader
Luay Saadi's death in a shootout in Tulkarm on Sunday sparked clashes between Israel and Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip.
Islamic Jihad sought to avenge their loss by firing rockets into Israel.
Israel responded with fresh air strikes on Palestinian targets in Gaza earlier on Tuesday.
Five people were hurt and two buildings damaged after Israeli missiles hit the Gaza Strip.
About 10,000 people attended Saadi's funeral in Tulkarm, where shops and schools closed for the day, reports said.
His father, Jihad, told the Associated Press that his son had gone underground having been arrested on numerous occasions by Israeli security forces.
"He decided he did not want to go back to prison because he saw bad things there," he said.
Israel had blamed Saadi for masterminding recent bomb attacks that had killed ten people.
'Frightening blasts'
A building belonging to the Fatah political party in Beit Hanoun, in the northern Gaza Strip, was hit and damaged in the first Israeli helicopter attack on Tuesday. No casualties were reporte.
Later, a building housing a charity linked to Islamic Jihad in Rafah, in southern Gaza, was targeted, injuring five people.
The Israelis say that the buildings were both linked to what they called terrorist activity, the BBC's Alan Johnston in Gaza City reports.
During the night, Israeli fighter jets made a series of low-level passes over Gaza City, triggering huge and frightening blasts as they broke the sound barrier, our correspondent says.
The other major Palestinian militant group, Hamas, says it is observing an informal truce.
Palestinian chief negotiator Saeb Erekat has warned that the latest Israeli operation could upset the truce.
"We condemn the Israeli incursion and assassiations in Tulkarm. This threatens the ceasefire," he told Reuters news agency.
Source: CNN.COM
What's your first thauht? Nothin' deep, just the first thaught that came to you when you read this.
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Have fun!
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Quote from D3adsTo quote one of my mates; 'sleeping with one woman is like having one CD'
Fun to read! In a respectful way.
Quote from The Postmanhahahahaha abstinence based sex ed works like a using a hammer and nails to hold down jello. Good luck with that.
Someone's under 18.
Nope. 
Quote from FletchA little trick with the Sony DSCs if you ever take more with this camera: They really dislike focusing on objects close up. So first make sure you hit the little faux-macro button on the back (it's the 'flower' button). Second, you can 'drag' the focus from one object to aanother. If I'm taking a close-up, I'll hold the focus then drag it around until the detail comes in crisply. it's annoying, but it helps get some clarity and sharp edges.
Thanks, I'll fiddle with that.
I like number 10 too, but one thing that really annoys me is that it's not straight... I wish I took more time. 
Thx for the replies guys.
Quote from FletchA little trick with the Sony DSCs if you ever take more with this camera: They really dislike focusing on objects close up. So first make sure you hit the little faux-macro button on the back (it's the 'flower' button). Second, you can 'drag' the focus from one object to aanother. If I'm taking a close-up, I'll hold the focus then drag it around until the detail comes in crisply. it's annoying, but it helps get some clarity and sharp edges.
Thanks, I'll fiddle with that.
I like number 10 too, but one thing that really annoys me is that it's not straight... I wish I took more time.
Thx for the reply guys.
