Posts by KoKo5oVaR

My bad for not having said it earlier : in reality, the artistic direction is perfectly suited, because this is what the developers wanted it to be. And really it's just my personal opinion.

It's very tricky. Somehow WW1 is still a subject somehow alive in our society, at least for what i know, in France; for various reasons, which could be political, cultural or familial. We may have known a member of our family who lived this war, or still feel its consequences on our current familial context. And thus i guess, somehow all share an intimate relationship with that period of history.

I do also like and approve the pacifistic take of it (although nowadays that would be difficult to advocate the contrary).

So with that said, what i don't like about the artistic direction of the game is not that I find it to be too "childish" (why not?); but really, too "pleasant". It's pleasant because it's aligned on a melancholic / heroic / meaningful vibe (which is very relevant in the game soundtrack) and do its best to bring empathic passions into the audience by the extensive use of pathos. It puts on scene these virtuous / candid / martyr but still fiercely courageous figures; the real heroes, resolute and just victims of the madness of men.

I think it should be the absolute contrary, if you would treat war artistically, the form should not be "pleasant" but absolutely "unpleasant". Unpleasant in unharmonious, metallic, white, nihilistic, rotten, absurd ways. Not trying to make the chords of lyricism resonate (rather make them resonate falsely) but expose war as you would throw blood and intestines on a white table. Not to create empathy but to create trauma, fear and disgust. Expose ugliness rather than making the beautiful passions resonate. Well at least that's my opinion.

To simplify really, i would adapt the first chapter on WW1 of Céline, "Journey to the end of the night".

And Maus is indeed really cool !

Playing Silent Storm : sentinels, I am at this mission, and this is perfectely my feeling. What the fuck the level designers were thinking ???

Why do i still play that game ??????

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uugh what an ugly game. Luckily for us football is not a fair game

That crossbar shot in the last minutes...........

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Mine can barely move with a keyboard... I'm not even talking about moving and shooting....

Personally I'm stuck to everything medieval fantasy, she doesn't like guns !... But well, i'm not complaining, i managed to get her do some cool coop on baldur's gate 2

I bought it too

Lucky bastard making payday2 games with his gf

That's really not how i would have do it, especially the artistic direction which is super nice but... not suited let's say. But i'm not in the dev team shoes so... However it's a good effort to see something like this i think.

That remembers me the time i was visiting some friends in lorraine, and they made me visit all the historical war sites of ww1 around verdun. (they are haunted by that war in their region)

You have verdun and all the war monuments, artillery forts, douaumont ossuary etc which are well kept in a glorious military orderly fashion (which is really not my thing) basically a middle ground between sadness and a glorious history well written by changing blood and flesh to stone.

But the most impressive place they made me visit was the éparges, it's basically the name of a village beside a hill with a dominating view above the plains the french and the germans were fighting for in order to put strategic artillery positions on top of it. (lorraine is very flat)

They fought for around 3 months on top of this little hill and dug trenches on both sides of it, the front line ones separated by the terrain levelling were basically 50 meters from each other. Pretty sure you could talk to the guy in the trench in front of you. And for the whole 3 months the french and german artiellery batteries were completely drowning the place under shells.

So to advance and take the trenches of the enemy, they had to blow them up. Basically you had engineers digging tunnels from their trench to under the trench of the enemy and detonate as most explosives as they could throwing high in the air earth and humans alike; then they would launch an assault on the gigantic crater the explosives left, fortify it with sandbags/barbed wire and hold it from counter attacks. It's absolutely demential. 12000 people died on top of that hill.

What is interesting there is that basically since it's a forested hill now, not much has been changed and was left somewhat intact and abandoned. In the middle of the forest you can still see what's left of the sinuous trenches, mossy bunkers, or a piece of rusty metal going out of the ground full of bullet holes. (although they had to remove all the non detonated shells and mines, not sure how many guys are still there fertilizing the forest under several layers of laboured earth though)

But i can assure you, we were alone in the forest and it is really spine chilling to be standing on top of all that. I swear if you concentrate enough in the forest silence you can hear ghosts.

That's basically how the terrain of the whole hill is.

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and the unbelievable craters due to the explosives detonations under trenches :

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And a plane photography from 1915, where you can clearly see the number of explosives used (les éparges village at the bottom, you can see the trenches, and compare the craters with the photo above to have a scale view)

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Congrats dude, that's super courageous to you and your family ! On top of the work, I would totally freak out for the hidden vices when buying a house like that !... You better indeed do your best to bring the electrical circuits up to date if some of your walls are isolated with straw and subject to water infiltrations, also to quickly install a differential circuit breaker in case you don't have one if the circuit is old (but i'm pretty sure you know that already ). Although You would just need to get yourself some solar panels, a small wind turbine and you are all set the german way

This match ending was so dramaturgically virtuous

Bought it too i'm hooked as well, that sucks i had the very same game concept

That is much much better dude i think good stuff !

That's super awesome mino !! Needs a hurg black silouhette on those windows

@step I wouldn't worry too much, the tech is new and people are fighting to get the most legitimate use/style out of it : what does it mean to use PBR right and how i can get a benefit for myself. When everyone will be able to render spot on realistic materials easily, something else will have to added to be able to distinguish yourself.

Not sure if this is a just analogy at all, but look what happened to hyper realistic painting.

Not sure who is trolling anymore

I have nothing negative to say about MGS, it's a fanboyism exception

todo shaybon bravo seha baby

Alright i see where this thread is going ...

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What is it with south america destroying europeans countries ? The heat, the poison of a jungle insect ??

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And are you seriously saying we should NOT strive for a world where anyone could go anywhere, dressed anyhow, and feel safe?

Dude sure ... But huh... good luck to feminism.

I wouldn't try to convince the 6 drunken guys who would break my teeth on the pavement to steal the 20 euros i have because they noticed i was walking wearing a smoking vest, a pair of underwear and a cowboy hat while playing tamtam at 3am in an insecure suburb.

(i don't do that very often)

Bought Europa Universalis IV i need to stop now

Funny facts : The FIFA is classified as a non-profit organization