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i see intelligent design as a philosophy and philosophy is not a science.

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’Intelligent design’ can’t be taught as science, judge rules2005-12-20 -- HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) -- In one of the biggest courtroom clashes between faith and evolution since the 1925 Scopes Monkey Trial, a federal judge barred a Pennsylvania public school district Tuesday from teaching "intelligent design’’ in biology class, saying the concept is creationism in disguise.

U.S. District Judge John E. Jones delivered a stinging attack on the Dover Area School Board, saying its first-in-the-nation decision in October 2004 to insert intelligent design into the science curriculum violates the constitutional separation of church and state.

The ruling was a major setback to the intelligent design movement, which is also waging battles in Georgia and Kansas. Intelligent design holds that living organisms are so complex that they must have been created by some kind of higher force.

Jones decried the "breathtaking inanity’’ of the Dover policy and accused several board members of lying to conceal their true motive, which he said was to promote religion.

A six-week trial over the issue yielded "overwhelming evidence’’ establishing that intelligent design "is a religious view, a mere re-labeling of creationism, and not a scientific theory,’’ said Jones, a Republican and a churchgoer appointed to the federal bench three years ago.

The school system said it will probably not appeal the ruling, because the members who backed intelligent design were ousted in November’s elections and replaced with a new slate opposed to the policy.

During the trial, the board argued that it was trying improve science education by exposing students to alternatives to Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution and natural selection.

The policy required students to hear a statement about intelligent design before ninth-grade lessons on evolution. The statement said Darwin’s theory is "not a fact’’ and has inexplicable "gaps.’’ It referred students to an intelligent-design textbook, "Of Pandas and People.’’

But the judge said: "We find that the secular purposes claimed by the board amount to a pretext for the board’s real purpose, which was to promote religion in the public school classroom.’’

In 1987, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that states cannot require public schools to balance evolution lessons by teaching creationism.

Eric Rothschild, an attorney for the families who challenged the policy, called the ruling "a real vindication for the parents who had the courage to stand up and say there was something wrong in their school district.’’

Richard Thompson, president and chief counsel of the Thomas More Law Center in Ann Arbor, Mich., which represented the school district and describes its mission as defending the religious freedom of Christians, said: "What this really looks like is an ad hominem attack on scientists who happen to believe in God.’’

It was the latest chapter in a debate over the teaching of evolution dating back to the Scopes trial, in which Tennessee biology teacher John T. Scopes was fined $100 for violating a state law against teaching evolution.

Earlier this month, a federal appeals court in Georgia heard arguments over whether a suburban Atlanta school district had the right to put stickers on biology textbooks describing evolution as a theory, not fact. A federal judge last January ordered the stickers removed.

In November, state education officials in Kansas adopted new classroom science standards that call the theory of evolution into question.

President Bush also weighed in on the issue of intelligent design recently, saying schools should present the concept when teaching about the origins of life.

In his ruling, Jones said that while intelligent design, or ID, arguments "may be true, a proposition on which the court takes no position, ID is not science.’’ Among other things, he said intelligent design "violates the centuries-old ground rules of science by invoking and permitting supernatural causation’’; it relies on "flawed and illogical’’ arguments; and its attacks on evolution "have been refuted by the scientific community.’’

"The students, parents, and teachers of the Dover Area School District deserved better than to be dragged into this legal maelstrom, with its resulting utter waste of monetary and personal resources,’’ he wrote.

The judge also said: "It is ironic that several of these individuals, who so staunchly and proudly touted their religious convictions in public, would time and again lie to cover their tracks and disguise the real purpose behind the ID Policy.’’

Former school board member William Buckingham, who advanced the policy, said from his new home in Mt. Airy, N.C., that he still feels the board did the right thing.

"I’m still waiting for a judge or anyone to show me anywhere in the Constitution where there’s a separation of church and state,’’ he said. "We didn’t lose; we were robbed.’’

The controversy divided Dover and surrounding Dover Township, a rural area of nearly 20,000 residents about 20 miles south of Harrisburg. It galvanized voters to oust eight school board members who supported the policy in the Nov. 8 school board election. The ninth board member was not up for re-election.

The new school board president, Bernadette Reinking, said the board intends to remove intelligent design from the science curriculum and place it in an elective social studies class. "As far as I can tell you, there is no intent to appeal,’’ she said.

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Maybe these loudmouth Christians will finally start to shut the fuck up. The is the one that really kills me:

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"I’m still waiting for a judge or anyone to show me anywhere in the Constitution where there’s a separation of church and state,’’ he said. "We didn’t lose; we were robbed.’’

Did this guy even READ the constitution or the declaration of independence?

7/10

woot! congrats, man!

alcohol 120% if you feel like dealing with the blacklist problem. if not, then Nero.

Obi-Wan Kenobi (yes, there are Star Wars comics)

mazzle, two is shit compared to three. granted there is a little bit of story that carries over from two into three, but if you didnt finish or never even played 2, you can still play 3 and love it. Three is by far the best of the series.

Even if you are just thinking about trying 3, do it. Its fuckin' amazing!

oh.my.god.

Klein, if you are working on this game in any way, shape, or form, you are my new hero.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/675/675598p1.html

check out the trailer. I want this game NOW!!! SC = best game series. Ever.

if that were real, i would so buy that.

i despise emo kids.

squat and nZero are pwn.

lurker is dead on.

i bought 7.1 about a year ago. Was 111 for the sound card (creative labs audigy 2 zs gamer), and about 100 for the speakers (creative labs as well). Works great. Only downside is some games dont recognize 7.1 so they run in stereo unless i set windows down to 5.1

i couldnt get into silent hill for the life of me. dont know, it just wasnt my thing.

That cop is wearing some mighty tight pants.

better than the half-life 2 one. I want one of those.

i was thinkin the same thing.

me likes.

YOU B!!

he is king:

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dont have a 360, but my live tag is ObtuseSparrow.

after reading klein's post, my hand hurts.