Made some animal signs for the different enclosures. Was more fun to make than I expected, although it did take a while to come up with something that I think fits nice 
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Might move this one away a bit, so it doesn't block view so much.
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Most of it is vrad.
What does your average (full compile) map compile take?
Season takes 35 minutes on final (core i7 920)
Reducing dead space, hidden brush zones, and lightmaps will improve compile times
That's pretty impressive. I'm on a slower PC, but still ...
Quote from leplubodeslapinYeah i think most people don't think about optimizing the lightmaps as Cashed say.
If you have a huge 3Dskybox, don't hesitate to use a 128 or 256 lightmap because you'll not get beautiful shadows anyway.
That is indeed a common part of optimizing I tend to forget about.
Quote from JeanPaulDisplay MoreIf its just for your own internal testing purposes you can use the entity only compile.
Entity only compile takes less than a second and updates all point entities in the map. Updating/changing any brush entities or anything requiring vvis or vrad will break the compile though.
EDIT: This is after youve already done a normal compile on the map and that BSP file exists in the specified map directory youre compiling into.
EDIT EDIT: I forgot the entity only compile rules about triggers n shit but the point is if all youre doing is updating a spawn location then entity only compiles are a massive headache reducer.
Yup. Could come in handy to tweak small stuff or fix minor things.
Quote from cashed2 hours for compiles? seems high
Most of it is vrad.
What does your average (full compile) map compile take?
Quote from FMPONEThat sideways T.V. seems a bit odd, maybe you could do a custom asset there? Also, the shadows on the ground being so red seems odd. Maybe use a local ambient light to bring out the blues there, I think that would make more sense.
edit: but that first shot is coming along nicely
Agreed the TV seems odd that way. I was trying something different than these wooden signboard that have been there since forever and looked like shit.
Gonna try the local ambient light too. Thanks for the feedback!
Some small updates.
Replaced the hay stack with a Safari jeep prop.
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Custom fish
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Looks much better. The roof is also a huge improvement.
Thanks
Bots are useful for checking (early development) chokepoints timings and for checking angles and generally how "fun" a specific spot is or can be.
As soon as you think your layout is getting pretty decent, you should organise a playtest with human players though.
It depends on personal preference, I guess. Some people first come up with a theme that seems interesting to them, others try to nail a layout and then come up with a fitting theme. There is an interesting article about the making of de_facade that Facade was basically build with only layout/gameplay in mind at first and only when that part was more or less done they started exploring what kind of environment/theme would fit the layout. You might want to read it
There is no recommended workflow imo. You mentioned the (probably) two most important aspects of a CSGO/MP level: layout/gameplay and theme/atmosphere/environment. I guess you can achieve them both in different "order".
For all it's worth de_facade might have well gotten a totally different theme. Or it would be perfectly possible to remake de_inferno into a modern looking city.
Quote from VayaHow long does a full compile take for a beast like this?
A bit less than two hours, most of which is for vrad.
Quote from JeanPaulAre you compiling with -staticproppolys and -staticproplighting? That might fix the rock prop issue.
Yes, I'm doing full compiles. The info_lighting seems to have fixed it btw
Thanks
No idea how many hours, but I've started the map about a year ago.
There are two skybrushes inside that model, but the origin is not. It probably has something to do with that, I'll try an info_lighting. Thanks
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Been a while since I posted an update, so here we go.
Mapcore easter egg 
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Redone the enclosure on the left. I've moved it up a bit, so it's more visible. Supposed to be for meerkats!
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I've removed the water now, like as it has been drained for maintenance or something like that. Main reason is it is difficult to make it look good (the water was "faked").
I'll probably have to make some changes to the parts where you can go from the path into the enclosure now. There are a bunch of wooden planks acting as a bridge on one side now.
Rocks in the water could be removed completely, so going from A to the path would be a double jump. Not sure about this yet.
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Cut back on the lightshafts and skyglasses at B. I hope this is better now
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This is a lighting error that has been bugging me for a while now. I've tried all different prop_static parameters now, but I can't seem to fix it. This rock model looks fine on one side, but the lighting is off on the other side.
Anyone has any idea what is causing this and how to fix it?
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Thanks for the download link, I will check it out
Do you have a set region in mind for the level? I mean, does it have to be Germany, or could it maybe be all around the world?
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- Making Fnuggi less OP (ideas for this one?)
Send on VACation? Works every time
On a more serious note, this looks like an interesting map. Is there a download available somewhere? Didn't came accross a link in this thread.
Btw, what's wrong with de_neutron?
Looks awesome
It looks like a brand new hotel that hasn't ever welcomed any guests. You should try to make it look like people (both guests and staff) were at the hotel just moments before.
How about some baggage lying around? Either in a "tidy" way or it was left behind real quick in a "sloppy" way.
In the second shot could be a livingroom table with some stuff on it, like people have been sitting there just minutes ago: a laptop, a briefcase, some magazines, office papers, cups of coffee. A centerpiece on the counter.
Other suggestions: paintings/arty photographs, hotel carts, buffet carts, a ladder underneath a spotlight as if someone was replacing it, windowcleaners at work, ...
And I don't yet see the mandatory Wet Floor sign with a mop next to it 
screen peeking is a legit strategy, seems that you're just bad
Off course it is But the cardboard made the game a lot more exciting and sneaky.
Another one from DaveJ: making Sienna
One from Min0s: making Zest
I used to play GoldenEye with my brothers all the time. We attached a piece of cardboard to the screen to prevent screen cheating.
Stack + pistols + 1 hit kills > *
Good times!
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