Quote from RDHas anyone played the new beta?
Yeah, not quite sure what's changed though. Is there a changelog kicking about?
Posts by Tequila
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Quote from JAL
Prolly that´s why it´s WIP
Like Peri says, it's a little late to solve an inherent performance/layout flaw, but we'll see.
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Quote from JAL
This map would definitely deserve to win the Valve Mapping Contest :megaman:
It doesn't at all, because, as stated, the map plays like pap. Too many dead ends to count and insane navigation = no fun. It looks lovely, credit where it's due, but the mapper needs to go back to the drawing board and consider not only deathmatch mechanics but also the PVS/VIS - the whole map is being drawn no matter where you stand, so it's little wonder there's serious performance issues.
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Good to have you back, squire.
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Quote from FrieChamp
Holy shit that is so sick!
What a cunt.
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Tasty. Once my test SP map finished I might apply for a Source position on this beaut.
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Quote from Soul
How says you can't use both?
i mean for the fluorescent lights, in lockdown sample map they used spot lights for that
Ah, that they did. Depends on the area you're lighting really.
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Quote from kleinluka
this is why mapcore is way better than all the other communities on the net.
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Reminds me of the newish Prince of Persia's crazy architecture, which is awesome!
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Quote from Soul
Thanks for the reply's I'm gonna check out the lightning but don't know if i'm gonna use normal lights or spot lights yet.
How says you can't use both?
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Quote from DDCode
Display Morecd "**YOUR STEAM DIRECTORY**\steamapps\[email protected]\sourcesdk\bin" vbsp.exe "**YOUR STEAM DIRECTORY**\steamapps\[email protected]\sourcesdk\cstrike_sample_content\maps\**MAPFILE**" vvis.exe "**YOUR STEAM DIRECTORY**\steamapps\[email protected]\sourcesdk\cstrike_sample_content\maps\**MAPFILE**" vrad.exe -smooth 85 "**YOUR STEAM DIRECTORY**\steamapps\[email protected]\sourcesdk\cstrike_sample_content\maps\**MAPFILE**" pauseFill in ** **
smooth 85 increases the smoothing group angle to 85 degrees... since the default is like... 0.000000000892731 degrees of wtf?
Odd indeed. Cheers DD.
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Yeah, geometry looks fine, but white lighting should never be the sole lighting. I know Quake 2 was renowned for its browness, but still, you've lost some of the warmth that made The Edge pleasing on the eyes. Try making the main lighting subtle yellows and complimentary oranges, with small dashes of red for highlights, and then perhaps save whites and blues for entirely different areas where you want to promote a calmer feeling.
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Yeah, I'll check it out.
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We can. But it isn't going to happen.
Also: DD, can you help me out in regards to .bat files? I really want to be able to compile outside of Hammer, but don't have a clue where to start.
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Try a 3d skybox, to push back the boundaries. Looks awfully cramped at the moment.
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Quote from Defrag
I'll post a few pics tomorrow as I can't show the map I'm working on right now (see siggy
). I've tried using the spotlights with various settings including quadratic, linear, constant (500,000 like valve used for dm_lockdown) and large/small inner/outer angle values.. but I still typically end up with a very intense look sporting big contrasts between light/dark. I'm not sure whether Source is particularly suited to the option of texture lighting either.*edit - This is the sort of lighting I typically shoot for, nice and warm -- reminiscent of scary one's HLDM maps. http://img142.exs.cx/img142/5082/scorpius22ae.jpg . (Screeny is from someone's WIP map posted on the other forum. Looks very nice, too. 
)Texture lights are old-hat as far as Source is concerned. Also, are you trying to you spotlights soley as a room's lighting, because you're going to want to have normal lights to 'fill out' space. I wouldn't bother messing with quadratic and linear values; from what I've seen Valve always leave them at default - they have no discernable effect.
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Quote from Defrag
I would have to agree that prodigy is one of the most beautiful pieces of level design I've ever witnessed. It's just a shame the rest of the CS:S maps (except Aztec) look rather plain compared to it. I'm having real problems getting acquainted to the Source lighting system. With HL1 I could create any mood I desired and accentuate certain architectural features. Now I seem to always have a pitch dark room with very bright lights that only light up small portions of the room. I've tried fiddling with various entities and values, ambient lighting settings and more.
Can anyone suggest any good values to get me started? My geometry is looking grand, but it's hard to appreciate it when my lighting looks like it was put together by Marilyn Manson.
I don't know, the standard values of around 200-300 are fine for standard lights, while spotlights look good in the 1000s. Valve also sometimes mess with the 'constant' value to create amazingly intense lighting, but I've had no luck with it so far. It would help if you posted pics of your problem!
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Have you tried making these beauts drivable in-game yet?
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Quote from wacko
pre-mapcore so long ago
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