Okay, now that we've debunked the WTC and Pentagon hoaz theories, let's go after Flight 93.
Posts by Fletch
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Bob Dylan
Bob Schneider
The Eels
Ben Folds
Radiohead
Iron & Wine
New Pornogrphers
The Faint
Riol Kiley
Kanye West
Sigur Ros
Frank Sinatra
Led Zepplin
LCD Soundsystem
Calexico
Tegan and Sara
My Morning Jacket
Johnny Cash
Amadou & Mariam
Spoon
Sage Francis
Ray Lamontagne
That's right. Fuck the radio.
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Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (2004), Rockstar Games, Inc.Die Hard: Nakatomi Plaza (2002), Fox Interactive, Sierra Entertainment, Inc.
No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M.'s Way (2002), Fox Interactive, Sierra Entertainment, Inc.
Half-Life (2001), Sierra On-Line, Inc.
Aliens Versus Predator: Gold Edition (2000), Electronic Arts Inc., Fox Interactive
The Operative: No One Lives Forever (2000), Fox Interactive
Aliens Versus Predator (1999), Electronic Arts Inc., Fox Interactive
Mortyr (2093 - 1944) (1999), Interplay Entertainment Corp.
Star Trek: Starfleet Academy (1997), Interplay Productions, Inc.
Freeciv (1996),
did you work on all of those games fletch???
if so . nice job !
No, but I was a product tester on that Half-Life (2001) for the PS2. Then they gave it to this guy
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Quote from RD
I dont get it, what does that picture say? Did you see the pictures of streetlights that the plane broke while flying over? If it wasnt a plane, what was it? A 100ft thick missile? And the ppl driving on the freeway saw the plane as well, and all the ppl inside the plane went missing so where are they? Where did the plane go if it didnt hit the Pentagon? Where are the passengers? What did the airtraffic controllers see on their radars? What broke the streetlamps, and how did the plane pieces get inside the Pentagon? 2 planes were caught on camera crashing into buildings,1 hit a field, guess what crashed into the Pentagon.
Oviously, the CIA built a special missle that contained chunks of an aircraft. They also used their teleporting technology (stolen from the aliens) to switch out the plane and the missle midflight. That way the air traffic controllers didn't notice. Then they killed unleashed a hypnotising beam around the building, fooling people into thinking they saw an aireplane.
DUH!
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God damnit, this asshole stole my Half-Life credit.
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Stuff you've never heard of.
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Quote from Steppenwolf
how come there is only this small hole in the pentagon by the same or at least similar plane? i dont get that. both buildings were made of concrete right?
That's like saying a tank and a Ford Mustand are both made out of steel. Pentagon was made to be a bunker that could withstand missle attacks. The apartment complex was designed so that low income people could have a living room with a decent view.
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Quote from Steppenwolf
Jawohl Mein Führer! :roll:
Oh, and if we're going to invoke Godwin's Law and start throwing around Nazi and Hitler references, I've got one for you. People that think 9/11 is a conspiracy are about as bad as people that say the same thing about the Holocaust. They take a human ragedy and reduce it to something trivial and petty.
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Quote from Steppenwolf
Why do you think a Osama Bin Laden can plan these things from a rock in afghanistan and people in a administration/secret agencies full of neo-conservative religious fanatics with lots of powers and money cant?Do you seriously believe the leaders in capitalist countrys love their people more then their power and money and wouldnt do things that harm the normal people? If so why dont they give a fuck about decent healthcare and social systems for everyone? Why have lobbyists so much power in these countrys?
He can plan them from a rock because it's so far off the grid, it's virtually impossible to get intel on threats that way. It's right out of Sun Tzu.
Yeah, I think G.W. Bush is a dick. I think he does a lot of bad stuff, but I do not think that he is evil. I don't think that he or anybody else in the government would agree to this plan. Assuming you're going to do this, you need a few guys to think it up in the first place, a few guys to do the math and planning, and a few more to plant the bombs. You've got to distract everybody working at the busiest office in the whole world. That's a lot of people you've got to make sure are 100% pure eveil and don't have a consiceince to tell somebody about it. It's not going to happen.
Also, there is no rational benefit for the government to do this. Don't give me the whole "Oh, it's so they can get oil!" bullshit. Iraq's oil reserves are smaller than a lot of other coutries. Hell, Argentina has more oil. The slight benefit that you're able to to get some oil rights is not worth the risk that you are killed as a traitor to your nation, everybody you've even known is thrown in prison, and your grave is spit upon for all eternity.
Plus, as you mentioned, Bush and his friends are very conservative Christians that believe very strongly in their faith. They know there would be a special place in hell for them if they pulled this off.
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Quote from Steppenwolf
Oh the arrogance over other opinions here :roll:
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Aren't you the idiot here because you believe what was on TV? You seriously think thats a better source then Internet?
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Fact is that many many questions are not answered. The videos that i posted are from this year and i believe that they at least answer a few of these questions and proof other stuff wrong.
1) You're damn right I have a superior opinion here. I also have a superior opinion over the guy on the corner with a tinfoil hat telling me the CIA is reading is mind. turns out, I'm not fucking Looney Toons, and I can feel good about that.
2) Not that it was on TV. But the fact that FEMA, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers, the Society of Fire Protection Engineers, the National Fire Protection Association, the American Institute of Steel Construction, the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, and the Structural Engineers Association of New York all seem to be on the same page, as well as the architect fo the building. Seems to be that is one shitload of smart people with a whole lot of dergees and real life experience looking into this shit. Now I'll weigh all of that against some retard with a home computer, a high school physics book, and a basic knowledge of Adobe Premier and his friends that he met at the sci-fi convention.
3) Yeah, there are unanswered questions. It's a completely unprecendented event. It's why we have theories to fill in those gaps. Now there are theories in category A that have scientific backing from FEMA, the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the Structural Engineering Institute of the American Society of Civil Engineers, the Society of Fire Protection Engineers, the National Fire Protection Association, the American Institute of Steel Construction, the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, and the Structural Engineers Association of New York, and there are theories in category B from crackpots on the internet. Which am I going to choose... hmmmm.... of the choices....
Do you know how I know that the govenrment isn't keeping a secret? Because when the President got a hummer, it became a wolrdwide media sensation. The US government has 100 senators, 435 representatives, the executive branch, thousands of administration level positions, thousands more researchers, secretaries, lobbyists, and interns. It's a company town. Everybody is trying to impress everybody else, and everything gets talked about. Everything becomes a story. It's how I can sleep soundly at night knowing the government isn't raising aliens in New Mexico. If somebody intentionally blew up those buildings with people inside, we would know about it. The second that piece of information got into the open, it would set off a media firestorm unlike anything seen by mankind. People would be put on trial and hung for treason on national TV.
But hey, there's this video on Google.
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Well shit, if you saw it on the Internet, it must be true.
Go watch Anatomy of the Collapse on TLC or Discovery Channel sometime (or buy the DVD) (or pirate it). It actually explains the collapse using... what's that called... oh yeah, ACTUAL SCIENCE. This shit in these Google videos uses a high school understanding of physics. The same "scientists" and "experts" in these videos are the same oness that say the moon landing is impossible.
See, with this real documentary, they decided to go talk to people that knew what the hell they were talking about: the architect and the building's chief engineer. Turns out they actually have firsthand knowledge about what stresses the building was designed for and what the flaws were. Here are some spicy tidbits:
1) Yes, the building was designed to withstand a plane's impact: in 1960. The idea of giant jumbo jets with high octane jet fuel was not a thought. They were more worried about small communter planes that crashed into high rises all the time.
2) The support structure wasn't designed for jet-fuel level heat. It was designed to withstand a heavy fire that was concievable during the time. It was treated with flame resistent foam. The problem was that jet fuel made the fire burn outside the acceptible range, melting the foam and softening the support frame. Thus, implosion from the center.
3) Those mysterious "explosions" floors beneath the impact zone? It's called gas pressure. When an area is suddently imapct, the air need someplace to go, so it will flow anywhere it can to escape. Down a stairwell. Through an office. Doesn't matter. So all that escaping gas found a a way to escape by blowing out windows. Some thing happens in any explosion. It why the teams that implode buildings remove all the glass first.
4) WTC 7 was crippled by falling debris. There are pictures of the damage pre- and post- collapse of the two towers. The only "evidence" conspiracists have is that the CIA had a branch office there. SPOOKY! THE CIA! IT MUST HAVE BEEN WHERE THEY HID THE ALIENS! Dumb shits. When a building takes a few tons of debris, it tends to be less stable. When firefighteres don't even touch a fire, it tends to burn for a hell of a long time past acceptible norms consideredin construction and design.
5) The "Where's the Debris Theory" is also complete bullshit. Those towers had so many fucking subfloors. Go to the site in NYC sometime. It's a big fucking pit. You can fit a lot of debris there. (Also consider an average floor on a building is about 5-10% materials and the rest open air.
So in conclusion: if you believe this hoax crap, you're an idiot. Congratulations, you believed shit on the internet. I have some money in a Nigerian Bank you can help me get to, but first I need you to give me some money to start the paperwork. We'll split it 50/50 and be rich as Nazis! Smacktard.
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Good job Jynx. Wasn't sure if anybody was going to get that.
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wow, you asked him how long he is.
that's so gay.
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Jesus, I leave town for a weekend, and you all go nutty.
For the one billionth time, this is not the forum for editorializing on whether or not you like somebody's mod/game/design/business plan/idea/etc.
Locked.
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Wait, what am I supposed to do with all this Axe shower gel now?
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As Mike said, the easiest solution is to put a little "Not Actual Gameplay Footage" tag at the bottom, just like how car commercials put "Dramatization - Not Actually Possible" when they drive their cars underwater or off buildings.
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then you're going to be bitching for at least another 5 or 6 years for the next-next-gen
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Quote from killertomato
scraps is postmans 2nd account. 10 posts in total and all made in political discussion. :wink:
IP's aren't even vaguely close to each other. But nice attempt at an ad hominem attack. Don't do it again.