Posts by Minos

  • 9/11 - some scientific stuff to think about it

    Quote from The Postman

    you do know that brazil probably didn't have the same on-the-scene reporting that we have here in the US ya know, where the attacks happen? Everything you talk about in this thread smacks of an outsider's ignorance to the situation.

    Everything I fucking talked about in this fucking thread is what I noticed by myself. You have the exact outsider's ignorance as me. Or were you at the WTC or at the pentagon in 9/11 ?

    And this brazilian channel had on-the-scene-reporters, their NY offices were just a few blocks from the twin towers.

    @ Bic: Man, metal simply does not disappear/evaporate. I agree that nothing much would have been left. I mean, there wouldn't be large pieces of fuselage and stuff but there should still be a lot of debris and burned stuff, and not just a big hole in the ground. And if the explosion was THAT big the trees would have been burned too.

    In regards to the pentagon pilot: Why are you making things up ? Quote the entire shit man, and not just the last line.

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    They reported him not because they feared he was a terrorist, but because his English and flying skills were so bad, they told the Associated Press, they didn't think he should keep his pilot's license."I couldn't believe he had a commercial license of any kind with the skills that he had," said Peggy Chevrette, the manager for the now-defunct JetTech flight school in Phoenix.

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    "He didn't do his homework, didn't attend on time and he would sort of come and go," said Duncan Hastie of Cockpit Resource Management.

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    Chevrette said Hanjour's English was so poor that it took him five hours to complete a section of a mock pilot's oral exam that is supposed to last just a couple of hours.Chevrette said she contacted Anthony again when Hanjour began ground training for Boeing 737 jetliners and it became clear he didn't have the skills for the commercial pilot's license.

    "I don't truly believe he should have had it and I questioned that," she said.

  • 9/11 - some scientific stuff to think about it

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    You guys know that there are phone calls made to the plane while they are attacking the terrorist pilots right? That there are recordings of the terrorists themselves saying there is a bomb on the plane, from within the cockpit? That the plane didnt completely disintegrate and that nobody saw a missile?

    Funny enough, the chances of a cell phone to work in such altitudes were minimum at that time (not to say impossible). And if you saw the video stepp posted, one of the alleged passengers phoned his mum and left a message. He starts with something like "Hy mum, this is john smith" (who phones his own mum and say his full name ?) Anyways, it's very suspicious at least.

    Just to add to the whole conspiracy theory:

    I remember some strange things the brazilian reporters said live:

    "Apparently a truck bomb has just exploded in the pentagon"

    And then, 3 or 4 hours after the WTC collapsed they invited an engineer who was on the WTC area and he said it was nearly impossible for the towers to collapse with only the planes crash and the subsequent fire.

  • 9/11 - some scientific stuff to think about it

    Hey. I was doing some research by myself.

    In regards to flight 93 (sources

    http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/9 ... index.html

    http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/a ... index.html )

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    "There's a crater gouged in the earth, the plane is pretty much disintegrated. There's nothing left but scorched trees," said Mark Stahl, of Somerset, who went to the scene.

    If I recall this is the first 757 to ever desintegrate after a crash in history. (this one was also pointed out on the video)

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    The man told dispatchers the plane "was going down. He heard some sort of explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane and we lost contact with him," Cramer said.

    Did the terrorists explode gas canisters ? As far as I know they were carrying plastic knives only.

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    "There's nothing in the ground you can see," Monaco said of the crash site. "It just looks like tiny pieces of debris."

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    "The plane is thoroughly disintegrated," Jim Marker of Somerset County's 911 Emergency Management Center told CNN. "There are no remains, no survivors.

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    Alien laser beams ?

  • 9/11 - some scientific stuff to think about it

    Quote from The Postman

    You're basing your knowledge of airplane flight on flight simulators? Wow.

    And what do you think the alleged terrorists used to practise ? They had never flew real boings before. What I meant is: If it's already hard to hit such target on flight simulator it must be pretty damn hard in real life.

  • 9/11 - some scientific stuff to think about it

    Quote from RD

    The Pentagon is humongous. All they had to do was fly the plane in it somewhere. If they hit another spot you'd probably have said it is very hard to hit it exactly there, but the truth is it is almost impossible to miss something that big, you always hit it somewhere. Just like someone can fire a gun and hit a brick in the pyramids from 10miles away, it doesnt make him a sharpshooter. Well it does if he can hit it twice.

    Yeah I agree. hitting something as big as the WTC is easy but you will have to agree with me that hitting a 4-story building with a highway next to it must be pretty hard

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    Besides that all, if I were a terrorist I would have hit the most important area of the building (the donald rummsfeld cabinet) and not the nearly reinforced and less important one. If you were a terrorist and had to plan such a big attack you would know things like that.

    Maybe they werent such good pilots :roll: Why would they have to hit Rummsfeld anyway? You probably only ever heard of Rummsfeld AFTER 911.

    In Iraq there are hundreds of terrorists, but none of them target Rummsfelds car when hes on visit. Maybe they are missiles too? Such "big" attacks they must know exactly where and when Rummsfeld is in Iraq?

    Yeah I agree, I had never heard of Donald before 911 but the terrorists certainly did. When planning such attacks you will try to cause just as much harm as you can... If I were a terrorist I wouldn't hit the opposite (and just reinforced area) of Donald's office. Besides that all, the flight school owners said that the alleged terrorists were mediocre pilots.

  • 9/11 - some scientific stuff to think about it

    Quote from Bic-B@ll

    the tail is made of aluminum. i went camping once and made a kind of big fire, we threw some cans in and they melted immediately. Now imagine a plane flying at 400mph, filled with fuel, crashing into a hard building.

    haha man, please, there's HUGE difference between a soda can and an airplane's tail. We have already seen loads of plane accidents and the tail is always there.

    Quote from Mikezilla

    he didn't land it

    uh. From the image it seems that it hit the first floor, how can a plane hit the first floor of a 4-story building without touching the ground ? I still can't believe that unexperienced pilots performed such a hard trick. You have to know exactly the time to start going down, to reduce speed etc...

    And what about the FBI retrieving tapes showing the "alleged" plane impact ? Why would they do it if they have nothing to hide. And do you really think that there was only one camera filming the entire pentagon ? That shit is like a fortress there must be cameras on every spot of the building.

    And how could such a "small" fire melt the entire plane down ?

    Besides that all, if I were a terrorist I would have hit the most important area of the building (the donald rummsfeld cabinet) and not the nearly reinforced and less important one. If you were a terrorist and had to plan such a big attack you would know things like that.

    PS: Independently from having seen that documentary these are just points that I have noticed by myself, after reading news and viewing images of the impact.

  • What pc specs do you have?

    Quote from Mazy

    fx-53, x800xt, 2gigs of ram, 300gb internal +750gb external, 24" dell lcdPlanning on upgrading after Vista is released, lots of new shit coming out then, better wait until its all settled so I can get a system that last a while.

    Besides this one still runs everything in 1920x1200 on max detail with little problems

    Holy shit. Are you spending all your money on computers and games instead of hoookers mazy