Posts by Minos

  • 9/11 - some scientific stuff to think about it

    Hey. I was doing some research by myself.

    In regards to flight 93 (sources

    http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/9 ... index.html

    http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/a ... index.html )

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    "There's a crater gouged in the earth, the plane is pretty much disintegrated. There's nothing left but scorched trees," said Mark Stahl, of Somerset, who went to the scene.

    If I recall this is the first 757 to ever desintegrate after a crash in history. (this one was also pointed out on the video)

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    The man told dispatchers the plane "was going down. He heard some sort of explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane and we lost contact with him," Cramer said.

    Did the terrorists explode gas canisters ? As far as I know they were carrying plastic knives only.

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    "There's nothing in the ground you can see," Monaco said of the crash site. "It just looks like tiny pieces of debris."

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    "The plane is thoroughly disintegrated," Jim Marker of Somerset County's 911 Emergency Management Center told CNN. "There are no remains, no survivors.

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    Alien laser beams ?

  • 9/11 - some scientific stuff to think about it

    Quote from The Postman

    You're basing your knowledge of airplane flight on flight simulators? Wow.

    And what do you think the alleged terrorists used to practise ? They had never flew real boings before. What I meant is: If it's already hard to hit such target on flight simulator it must be pretty damn hard in real life.

  • 9/11 - some scientific stuff to think about it

    Quote from RD

    The Pentagon is humongous. All they had to do was fly the plane in it somewhere. If they hit another spot you'd probably have said it is very hard to hit it exactly there, but the truth is it is almost impossible to miss something that big, you always hit it somewhere. Just like someone can fire a gun and hit a brick in the pyramids from 10miles away, it doesnt make him a sharpshooter. Well it does if he can hit it twice.

    Yeah I agree. hitting something as big as the WTC is easy but you will have to agree with me that hitting a 4-story building with a highway next to it must be pretty hard

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    Besides that all, if I were a terrorist I would have hit the most important area of the building (the donald rummsfeld cabinet) and not the nearly reinforced and less important one. If you were a terrorist and had to plan such a big attack you would know things like that.

    Maybe they werent such good pilots :roll: Why would they have to hit Rummsfeld anyway? You probably only ever heard of Rummsfeld AFTER 911.

    In Iraq there are hundreds of terrorists, but none of them target Rummsfelds car when hes on visit. Maybe they are missiles too? Such "big" attacks they must know exactly where and when Rummsfeld is in Iraq?

    Yeah I agree, I had never heard of Donald before 911 but the terrorists certainly did. When planning such attacks you will try to cause just as much harm as you can... If I were a terrorist I wouldn't hit the opposite (and just reinforced area) of Donald's office. Besides that all, the flight school owners said that the alleged terrorists were mediocre pilots.

  • 9/11 - some scientific stuff to think about it

    Quote from Bic-B@ll

    the tail is made of aluminum. i went camping once and made a kind of big fire, we threw some cans in and they melted immediately. Now imagine a plane flying at 400mph, filled with fuel, crashing into a hard building.

    haha man, please, there's HUGE difference between a soda can and an airplane's tail. We have already seen loads of plane accidents and the tail is always there.

    Quote from Mikezilla

    he didn't land it

    uh. From the image it seems that it hit the first floor, how can a plane hit the first floor of a 4-story building without touching the ground ? I still can't believe that unexperienced pilots performed such a hard trick. You have to know exactly the time to start going down, to reduce speed etc...

    And what about the FBI retrieving tapes showing the "alleged" plane impact ? Why would they do it if they have nothing to hide. And do you really think that there was only one camera filming the entire pentagon ? That shit is like a fortress there must be cameras on every spot of the building.

    And how could such a "small" fire melt the entire plane down ?

    Besides that all, if I were a terrorist I would have hit the most important area of the building (the donald rummsfeld cabinet) and not the nearly reinforced and less important one. If you were a terrorist and had to plan such a big attack you would know things like that.

    PS: Independently from having seen that documentary these are just points that I have noticed by myself, after reading news and viewing images of the impact.

  • What pc specs do you have?

    Quote from Mazy

    fx-53, x800xt, 2gigs of ram, 300gb internal +750gb external, 24" dell lcdPlanning on upgrading after Vista is released, lots of new shit coming out then, better wait until its all settled so I can get a system that last a while.

    Besides this one still runs everything in 1920x1200 on max detail with little problems

    Holy shit. Are you spending all your money on computers and games instead of hoookers mazy

  • 9/11 - some scientific stuff to think about it

    Quote from RD

    I dont get it, what does that picture say? Did you see the pictures of streetlights that the plane broke while flying over? If it wasnt a plane, what was it? A 100ft thick missile? And the ppl driving on the freeway saw the plane as well, and all the ppl inside the plane went missing so where are they? Where did the plane go if it didnt hit the Pentagon? Where are the passengers? What did the airtraffic controllers see on their radars? What broke the streetlamps, and how did the plane pieces get inside the Pentagon? 2 planes were caught on camera crashing into buildings,1 hit a field, guess what crashed into the Pentagon.

    1) the tree is intact

    2) there are intact windows on the left and on the right

    3) Where's the tail ?

    Quote from RD

    The "dumb" terrorists had the same flighttraining as other "dumb" pilots who are now actually flying planes.

    No. As far as I know they had never flought real planes before, just simulators. The WTC is easy to hit but the pentagon ? To hit such a short building you need at least landing experience, and if I recall the guy from the flight school said that they never really cared about taking off and landing while training. All they wanted to know was how to keep the plane flying.

  • 9/11 - some scientific stuff to think about it

    Quote from Fletch

    Plus, as you mentioned, Bush and his friends are very conservative Christians that believe very strongly in their faith. They know there would be a special place in hell for them if they pulled this off.

    Well you know, the guys who did the crusades were christians too. The guys who burned people alive too. I don't think religion really matters in this subject. Money/Power means a lot more to greedy people than a nice afterlife if you get what I mean.

    I ain't got no phsycs degree either but I don't believe a plane hit the pentagon. This pic speaks for itself:

    http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/pentag ... -width.jpg

    Besides that, how could unskilled, unprofessional and unexperienced pilots (the terrorists) perform such a hard trick ? Yeah I'm no pilot but I can picture it as "very difficult" to hit such a "short" (as in opposed to tall) target without having years and years of experience.