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America's Youth...

  • submdl
  • May 18, 2006 at 5:29 AM
  • Gaz
    • May 19, 2006 at 3:57 PM
    • #21

    A world war like WW2 would set the earth straight again, people would have to work together, and respect what you have. You don't need much to be happy, people are too material and think only of themselves.

    WW2 saw people working together, getting on together and doing so with very little.

    The only problem is that nowadays, World war would mean nukes and the destruction of the planet. Which would put a stop to it all. But its a shame as well, as humans have so much potential, but are stuck by "society" and "conformatisum"

  • Minos
    • May 19, 2006 at 6:40 PM
    • #22
    Quote from hamst3r

    Yea, but nobody cares about Brazil, so they don't count.<3

  • RD
    • May 19, 2006 at 6:58 PM
    • #23

    The youth today is totally lost and confused but doesnt realize it. They dont realise they have been brainwashed since birth by MTV and all these money begging commercials that target them. They drink beer and smoke just to be cool, but the sad truth is they will never understand what cool is. Their idea of cool was created by an old fat guy looking for easy money. WW2 was a great period of respect and we should all go back to that

  • Minos
    • May 19, 2006 at 6:59 PM
    • #24

    I wish I was 20 in the 60s... man, those were the times!

  • Steppenwolf
    • May 19, 2006 at 8:02 PM
    • #25

    ww2 times wern't much better. working in a archive can i tell you that first hand. I have read through a lot of police documents, books and papers from the last 100 years. What you got is a wrong and idealized picture of the old times based on silly black 'n white movies. In reality the world always was, is and will be a brutal place full of violence, crime and suffering people.

  • Remy
    • May 19, 2006 at 8:49 PM
    • #26
    Quote from Minotauro

    I wish I was 20 in the 60s... man, those were the times!

    Lol, Vietnam War anyone?

  • mabufo
    • May 19, 2006 at 10:12 PM
    • #27

    Going to a public highschool in america is a joke. I do, and I can tell you, the amount of shit I have to wade through to get from class to class is almost unbearable. We have fights, drug busts, sexually harrassment, anything and everything. It only gets worse with the kids who get wasted and have the urge to tell everyone how great it was... some of them even claim to have consumed 14 beers, which would almost undoubtably result in passing out - it's a wonder hat they remember the whole night (which leads me to believe they were non alcoholic).

    Me personally, I do my best to distance myself from all of it. I don't hate school, I don't hate the other kids, I'm just dissapointed. I'm dissapointed because I have to wade through all the bullshit. Bullshit from kids who wear nothing but black and think that everyone hates them - but grow up rich with more oppourtunities then I will ever have. Same goes with all the other kids like that. It makes me sick to my stomach.

    You'd understand exactly how I feel if you sat through my sophomore English class. It feels like sitting in a room full of 5 year olds who can't read any word with more than 6 letters in it. It's not only pathetic - but torture when our teacher decides to give Shakespeare a try. It only makes it worse. that the kids I go to school with would lose to a rock in an IQ test.

    So in my random ranting - I suppose there's a point to be found. From what I can see the point is that a majority of children in America are getting increasingly stupid. I grew up reading books, watching the discovery channel, and the history channel in the stead of mtv (which seems to be the only topic of conversation). I was never aloud to go see R rated films when I was 12, or listen to dirty music, Hell - I didn't have the internet until I was in 5th grade. The kids that make highschool a dissapointment for me obviously, have been brought up differently. Maybe that's the problem, the parents. I wouldn't doubt it. Could television be to blame? Maybe. My deduction however, is that kids are getting worse because no one reads any books outside of what's required in school. It's a shame. I could ask damn near anyone in my damned highschool if they enjoy reading and they would respond 'fuck that shit, it sucks.' Articulate aren't they? So they grow up with that mentality, without an imagination, or any concrete learning skills.

    What a shame.

    EDIT: if you see any typos - disregard, as I am not that adept at typing.

  • Minos
    • May 19, 2006 at 10:12 PM
    • #28
    Quote from Remy

    Lol, Vietnam War anyone?

    I was referring to the hippie part

    Mabufo - My parents never proihibited me from seeing R movies, drinking beer or watching anything I wanted. They even told me how kids were made when I was like 5 or 6 and yet, I'm not a thug. It all depends on the love and attention you receive at home IMHO.

    These stupid kids are probably ignored at home and their parents don't care if they are having promiscuous sex or have a hangover. They do this sort of thing to draw attention.

  • von*ferret
    • May 19, 2006 at 10:28 PM
    • #29

    This thread needs to be moved to Politics forum.

  • The Postman
    • May 19, 2006 at 10:38 PM
    • #30
    Quote from von*ferret

    This thread needs to be moved to Politics forum.

    Vroom vroom, beep beep!

  • Polaris
    • May 19, 2006 at 10:42 PM
    • #31

    I guess Minotauro is our resident psychologist

  • Skjalg
    • May 20, 2006 at 8:06 AM
    • #32

    You can all come live with me! Nothing ever happens here:D

  • RD
    • May 20, 2006 at 9:51 PM
    • #33

    Mino, this isnt about parental love. Well maybe in some rare cases, but there are hundreds of millions of thug kids out there, they dont have sex because their parents dont love them.

  • The Postman
    • May 22, 2006 at 4:21 PM
    • #34
    Quote from RD

    Mino, this isnt about parental love. Well maybe in some rare cases, but there are hundreds of millions of thug kids out there, they dont have sex because their parents dont love them.

    Wait, what? Can we get an article or study to back any of what you people in this thread are stating? (not just RD, but everyone here). Sounds like wild assumptions and vague anecdotes at best.

  • Minos
    • May 22, 2006 at 4:56 PM
    • #35

    sure...

    Quote

    [...]Maybe, as Pogo said, “. . . the enemy . . . is us.” [1] Maybe the root of all childhood disobedience is to be found in parental hypocrisy: the lack of genuine parental values and the ultimate fraud of all authority that is based in nothing but moral emptiness.

    http://www.guidetopsychology.com/ad_viol.htm

    LACK OF PARENTAL SUPPORT DURING CHILDHOOD IS ASSOCIATED WITH INCREASED ADULT DEPRESSION AND CHRONIC HEALTH PROBLEMS, STUDY FINDS

    http://www.apa.org/releases/parentalsupport.html

    Quote

    [...]Not until the last fifth of this book are we finally told what Breggin believes is the cause of children's developmental disorders, such as ADHD and autism, and behavioral/emotional problems such as oppositional defiant disorder and depression. The causes are said to be: (1) lack of parental love, (2) lack of parental attention, (3) lack of parental discipline, (4) family stress, (5) poor educational methods, and (6) a mental health profession that is prejudiced toward neurobiological explanations for behavior over psychosocial ones.

    http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEdu ... eggin.html

    Lack of parental love - a factor in child sex abuse

    http://www.dailynews.lk/2003/03/06/fea04.html

    Article on the origins of human love and violence. (points out maternal indiference as a violence generator factor)

    http://www.violence.de/prescott/pppj/article.html

  • Polaris
    • May 22, 2006 at 5:54 PM
    • #36

    Minoz wins this thread

  • RD
    • May 22, 2006 at 7:25 PM
    • #37
    Quote

    Not until the last fifth of this book are we finally told what Breggin believes

    The American secret service actually did an investigation into what makes youth derail to try and prevent future columbine's, and they came up with a checklist of 63 risk factors, none of which are certain to derail you. If you have 4+ risk factors you are 14 times more likely to derail.

    http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/safety/pr ... report.pdf

  • RD
    • May 22, 2006 at 7:28 PM
    • #38

    And Minos ofcourse parental love is important, but the youth these days are spoiled brats with xbox 360's. The reject their parents love because theyre too busy playing games. Its cool to be a thug, thats why they do it.

  • Minos
    • May 22, 2006 at 7:44 PM
    • #39
    Quote from RD

    And Minos ofcourse parental love is important, but the youth these days are spoiled brats with xbox 360's. The reject their parents love because theyre too busy playing games. Its cool to be a thug, thats why they do it.

    I totally agree with you. Lack of parental attention isn't the only reason but it's the major one imo. One thing leads to another. These kids ain't raised by their parents but by TV/video-games. Some here might consider what I'll say now a sin but I truely agree that video-games lead kids to violence. But not in the way most people are used "omg I played GTA now I must kill people". These kids have bigger problems, TV and video-games are just the trigger, something they use to scape their mediocre lives. TV/video-games didn't lead these kids to violence, their parents/friends/society did. But that's just me and I could be wrong...

    So yeah, back on the TV subject, it may sound old but TV was 1000x better back when I was kid. My favourite cartoons included captain planet and some other japanese tokusatsus that teached the importance of love, friendship and shit like that. Of course they were crappy as fuck but they had a good message afterall.

    What do these kids watch now ? Hell, when I was kid I used to watch Beakman's World and Wonder Years, where are these good tv shows nowadays ?

    Even our rappers were cooler back then Look at 50cent... pff...

    Call me old-fashioned or whatever but I rarely watch TV these days and to be honest I don't miss it.

  • RD
    • May 22, 2006 at 7:56 PM
    • #40
    Quote from Minotauro

    I totally agree with you. Lack of parental attention isn't the only reason but it's the major one imo. One thing leads to another. These kids ain't raised by their parents but by TV/video-games. Some here might consider what I'll say now a sin but I truely agree that video-games lead kids to violence. But not in the way most people are used "omg I played GTA now I must kill people". These kids have bigger problems, TV and video-games are just the trigger, something they use to scape their mediocre lives. TV/video-games didn't lead these kids to violence, their parents/friends/society did. But that's just me and I could be wrong...

    So yeah, back on the TV subject, it may sound old but TV was 1000x better back when I was kid. My favourite cartoons included captain planet and some other japanese tokusatsus that teached the importance of love, friendship and shit like that. Of course they were crappy as fuck but they had a good message afterall.

    What do these kids watch now ? Hell, when I was kid I used to watch Beakman's World and Wonder Years, where are these good tv shows nowadays ?

    Even our rappers were cooler back then Look at 50cent... pff...

    Call me old-fashioned or whatever but I rarely watch TV these days and to be honest I don't miss it.

    I think you got it backwards. A kid playing a videogame, is a kid playing a videogame. It doesnt change the parents, they dont suddenly give less love because there is a playstation in the room. The kid has just become oblivious to it. The problem is not the lack of attention, but an overkill of attention and being spoiled no matter what crap they pull off, and never learning any limits. Kids get respect by suffering

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