Grand Theft Auto IV

[Bic-B@ll]

yeah but those are dime-a-dozen, the super awesome car that i only had once when the gay guy gives it to you is hard to come by (if you can even find it at all?). the race method seems decent, i dont think you lose any money or anything, maybe a thumbs down from brucie, but who cares.

[Jetsetlemming]

My excitement for GTA4 has plummeted since its release from all the news of people playing it, especially how it skews so badly with what all the reviewers said about it. It doesn't sound like a remotely 10/10 game. Maybe 7/10 with a "Badly needs patched!" footnote.

It looks especially bad with videos like these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm2oMcoFaGI

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/user ... 14041.html

In that first one, the cops are behaving ridiculously stupid, charging in one at a time at the player, acknowledging anybody else is there at all only in voice barks, and the dying ones animations look worse than first generation havoc ragdolls. The framerate's about 15 FPS at the most once shit starts blowing up outside, too. The second one's pretty obvious.

I've also heard a lot of complaints about how cars disappear so quickly when you look away, and mission scripting preventing you from doing what you want, exactly the opposite of what the game is supposed to be. Invincible enemies until they reach plot points, automatic mission failures, scripting oddities... Jesus.

I hope they fix the hell out of it before the PC release.

As for me, I think I'm going to play through Vice City again. I love that game.

[skdr]

Stop watching those stupid videos and get the game yourself. It's fucking amazing.

[Jetsetlemming]

I don't have a console that could play it, I can't afford one. My only consoles are a PS2 (that I never use), a GBA, and older stuff like a Genesis and NES.

[Psy]

I've haven't experienced any of the problems you've mentioned except FPS lag which I wasn't exactly surprised about.

[Buddy]

Well you can FORCE a lot of bugs in many games, You could that in previous GTAs, you can do it here, it gives an extra level of possiblities

[Thrik]

While problems do exist in GTA4, they're nowhere nearly as conspicuous as some sources are saying. I've been playing for ages and I've hardly encountered any issues at all, and the ones I did see were minor dips in the frame rate, a very rare bit of ragdoll weirdness, etc.

By and large, the animations in GTA4 are absolutely amazing. This is because they've mixed ragdolls with actual animations using Euphoria (procedural animation I guess), resulting in some startlingly life-like movement from pedestrians and Niko alike.

To be honest, considering the epic level of detail in GTA4 it's incredible it's as bug-free as it is. There's so much potential for you to screw things up just because of how much freedom you get.

For the most part GTA4 is deserving of its ratings because it's an unbelievable accomplishment from a world depth perspective, and also delivers an extremely entertaining experience. Just don't expect anything completely detached from its predecessors — this is still GTA.

[Cybbe]

I wish the multiplayer worked properly though :<

I keep getting thrown on and off, and skdr experienced the same issues when we played. apparently, the only thing that doesn't totally fail is Party Mode. The rest seem to have an embedded coin toss that determines whether or not we should be thrown off before it switched game mode. (

[PogoP]

You keep getting thrown off? How is that a bad thing?

[Sindwiller]

You keep getting thrown off? How is that a bad thing?

I think he means he's disconnecting from the game... or something

[PogoP]

You keep getting thrown off? How is that a bad thing?

I think he means he's disconnecting from the game... or something

Yeah I know. I was playing with pragmatics thur. Keke.

[MrH2o]

yeah but those are dime-a-dozen, the super awesome car that i only had once when the gay guy gives it to you is hard to come by (if you can even find it at all?).

Were do i find it again? I forgot to put it in the garage (most likely to freeze or another mission that forced me to use a specific car)

The biggest problem for me is that the game locks up every now and then. I've moved away the jetengine xbox from the shelf in case there was a overheat problem, but it still locks up. Really annoying when you´r in a mission

[Bic-B@ll]

after you get it once it doesnt come back which is lame.

[Seldoon182]

If you guy have finished GTAIV, come get the

!

[Furyo]

yeah but those are dime-a-dozen, the super awesome car that i only had once when the gay guy gives it to you is hard to come by (if you can even find it at all?). the race method seems decent, i dont think you lose any money or anything, maybe a thumbs down from brucie, but who cares.

They're not so much a dime a dozen, but they're also great at making the Infernus (that super awesome car you're talking about) spawn in the traffic. The way GTA handles vehicle spawning, you're likely to get replacement cars for the one you're currently driving within the same category. So go to that algonquin dealership, get yourself one of the 8 cars there, then drive around, noticeably around Times Square and Central Park and you should come across the Infernus sooner rather than later.

Once you get one, I suggest doing all the races in one go, going to the Pay and Spray shops along the way to avoid having to look for another one.