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Jetsetlemming

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The comments on the article are worse than Youtube comments. Jesus christ.

PC gaming hasn't been more expensive than console gaming ever since HDTVs started becoming big deals- even if most console games can't support HDTV res above 780p. :v A nice gaming computer and a mid-range HDTV cost about the same (depending on how much you want to spend- you could skimp far more on the gaming PC's cost and still get something worthwhile than you could the HDTV if you build it yourself), and the nice big monitor to go with that gaming PC will be HUNDREDS cheaper than a current gen console. You can get a good quality 22" LCD for less than $200 now.

Thrik

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PC gaming hasn't been more expensive than console gaming ever since HDTVs started becoming big deals- even if most console games can't support HDTV res above 780p. :v A nice gaming computer and a mid-range HDTV cost about the same (depending on how much you want to spend- you could skimp far more on the gaming PC's cost and still get something worthwhile than you could the HDTV if you build it yourself), and the nice big monitor to go with that gaming PC will be HUNDREDS cheaper than a current gen console. You can get a good quality 22" LCD for less than $200 now.

While I don't disagree that console gaming does get expensive fast, I think it's worth bearing in mind that most people these days are getting high-definition televisions regardless of their gaming habits and thus it isn't really fair to factor the cost into the overall cost of owning a console, much like you wouldn't factor in the chair you're sitting on.

A PC monitor is different because its one and only purpose is generally for displaying the PCs visuals, and has no side-uses such as films and television.

With regards to value-for-money, consoles are still a long way ahead of PCs. As someone who owns one of the more powerful PCs around and consoles, I feel I can confidently say this based on (warez-less) experience.

Jetsetlemming

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An SDTV is good enough for TV and movies still. It is not good enough for a big number of console games that are designed for HDTVs such as Dead Rising, which is famous for being unreadable on SDTV. I know personally if I were to get a new console right now, I'd have to pay for an HDTV to go with it, I don't already have one. A friend of mine recently bought a big screen TV for a console. The HDTV is a required part of modern console gaming.

Also you can use a computer monitor to watch TV. ;) I plan on getting a TV tuner card for my next build- my actual TV is an ancient SD monster that's at least 20 years old. Thing's so heavy it nearly killed me last time I moved it.

Thrik

Thrik

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An SDTV is good enough for TV and movies still. It is not good enough for a big number of console games that are designed for HDTVs such as Dead Rising, which is famous for being unreadable on SDTV. I know personally if I were to get a new console right now, I'd have to pay for an HDTV to go with it, I don't already have one. A friend of mine recently bought a big screen TV for a console. The HDTV is a required part of modern console gaming.

I think you misunderstood my point. I said that people are now buying HDTVs anyway, not SDTVs. Considering how much HDTVs cost, anyone buying an SDTV at moment is making a mistake. And with perfectly capable HDTVs going for less than £400, it's still priced competitively with PCs if you do include a HDTV in the cost (which I don't).

This is different to PC monitors where you're typically not going to use it for anything other than PC usage. I have a big 24-inch PC monitor, but I wouldn't want to exchange my lovely sofa and huge television for it — nor would most others I imagine.

You're right that HDTVs do enhance consoles a lot, but most people have one or in the process of getting one anyway simply for *gasp* watching TV and films. They're not something most people will buy specifically for consoles.

Taylor

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It was a pretty cool article, though everything that Audiosurf guy said was rather dubious.

Also, all console games do not require the purchase of a HDTV just because Dead Rising does...

Ginger Lord

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This is different to PC monitors where you're typically not going to use it for anything other than PC usage. I have a big 24-inch PC monitor, but I wouldn't want to exchange my lovely sofa and huge television for it — nor would most others I imagine.

I know more students who use their monitors for TV/DVD watching than those who don't. Granted I know more media guys than others but PC monitors are definatly not just used for PC visuals, nor a small percentage either.

Thrik

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It's still a minority though, whereas essentially all conventional television owners are going to be using it for non-gaming purposes too.

I guess we've kind of gone on a tangent here, though. Most people already have PC monitors and most people already have televisions, so including either in the net cost of a gaming cost equation seems fundamentally flawed to me. Plus if you want to get really complicated, you can plug your console into a lot of PC monitors anyway. :oops:

Skjalg

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Only reason why I use my monitor for watching tv and films (I got a dell 24") is because I dont own a TV (read: HDTV).

But once i actually get a job and get some cash those things will appear in my flat :)

zaphod

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awesome article, I agree with it 100%

*edit* This part especially is something I have been talking about for the last few years as an area that PC games must embrace, and something that most cross platform "traditional" games are failing to do on the PC.

At its heart, he explains, is a shift from viewing games as a physical product, to viewing them as a service - something that is also happening in other entertainment media. Digital distribution is part of that; more fluid and varied forms of game development, with games that change and engage their communities of players over time, are another; as is, naturally, the persistence and subscription (or otherwise) revenues of MMO games. None of this is reflected in the sales charts analysts, executives - and gamers - obsess over.

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