new iTunes and iPods

[Mojo]

upgraded to itunes 7 here at work and now I can't work with Unreal3 and listen to music, so I had to revert back to 6.0.5. Oh well no videos for me.

[dissonance]

itunes won't destroy anything, because it /created/ all there is in that market.

also, i don't really 'get' itunes. it's not all that useful to me; i'm not sure why.

[Mojo]

also, i don't really 'get' itunes. it's not all that useful to me; i'm not sure why.

I wasn't really a fan of it, but since I got an ipod and am an mp3 whore/elitist I like how it can keep track of what I listened to, how much, how recently, and album art (which grew on me).

[dissonance]

also, i don't really 'get' itunes. it's not all that useful to me; i'm not sure why.

I wasn't really a fan of it, but since I got an ipod and am an mp3 whore/elitist I like how it can keep track of what I listened to, how much, how recently, and album art (which grew on me).

but you can do that with lots of services.

are you using itunes for this simply because it came with the ipod and you had nothing berrer beforehand? no offense or anything, im just trying to understand.

[Izuno]

well i personally just like itunes for similar reasons to mojo, but also cause I like the ipod better than all the other devices out there. simple. it works. reliable.

[Fletch]

I like iTunes a lot. I've been a WinAmp fan since the beginning, and it took me a long time to accpt iTunes. I thought iTunes was too big on the screen and took up too much memory. I liked that I could get WinAmp down to a minimal space and memory footprint. What did it for me was that iTunes approaches your library as music, while WinAmp approaches it as files.

You have to really look hard to see a file name in iTunes. It treats every files as a song and gives you that information in a well laid out and organized fashion (something WinAmp lacked for a very long time). WinAmp always seemed to be at the mercy of people's poor file labeling and id3 tagging. When I stick in a CD to iTunes, it will rip and file it away without me having to tell it where to put it or how to file it. It starts paying the songs as I rip. Same sort of reverse funcationality with burning. It just works, and it works in a way that I appreciate and my sister can still understand. WinAmp just no longer does it for me. While I still appreciate it's simplicity, it just seems like it lacks refinement. It's great for playing files, but it doesn't do it for me when it comes to overal library management.

And don't get me started on the clusterfuck that is Media Player. If any of you use Media Player to manage your library, you deserve for your computer to catch fire.

[Bic-B@ll]

if i ever rip music, i usually use wmp, it does it just fine, names them properly, puts them in the right folder where i tell it to and it plays the music while ripping. other than that, wmp can lick my balls. i find that music match jukebox is the best for organizing music, its just great, if you have a subscription it will go out and label everything correctly for you with album ary and stuff, and you can adjust the tags for your songs with a whole lot of control for mass tagging and such. i dont really listen to any new music so ive got everything neat and organized in folders where i like it, from there on i just use winamp, its simple and works, so i dont fuck with it. i still find itunes too intrusive and annoying and stuff like that, not to mention for the past 4 versions havent wanted to install. the only thing i ever use itunes for is to listen to 30 second clips of songs, and that's only if last.fm doesn't have them

http://www.zeroproof.com/bicball/musicdir.gif (fyi, i dont listen to slipknot and maybe 1 soad song a year)

[Mojo]

I am agreeing with Fletch 100% on this. I used winamp for the longest time and thought itunes was "stupid" just because I was afraid of change. But as I began to use Itunes more and more, the more I loved it. Have all your mp3s in a library (I have a really massive collection) and being able to find certain songs without having to dig through layer upon layer of folders is really great.

I use EAC to rip my CDs, mainly since I like the quality it yields and haven't had a problem with it in many years.

[Pericolos0]

ipod+rockbox+winamp FTW

I like my music to be treated as files as i have my own way of arranging music...

I used itunes for a while though, but ive grown to hate it. I do not like the looks, it completely messed up my music folder (thats cool, hundreds of unknown artist-unknown song renamed files! so now i have to listen to them all and figure out what song it was) etc..

I like the network stuff though! that was very useful at my dorm where we could listen to each others music, but i can do that in winamp too

[skdr]

upgraded to itunes 7 here at work and now I can't work with Unreal3 and listen to music, so I had to revert back to 6.0.5. Oh well no videos for me.

Known bug, Apple will release update soon.

[ReNo]

Have all your mp3s in a library (I have a really massive collection) and being able to find certain songs without having to dig through layer upon layer of folders is really great.

Thats something you can do with Winamp too though. I love their filtering system and way of displaying your library - makes it so simple to hunt down songs, albums, or bands from a huge list.

I'm sure I could get into iTunes, and maybe I will at some point as I do need a new mp3 player and one of the new nano's might fit the bill, but for now Winamp does everything I need really well.

[Mazy]

80 gigs, gimma!

[Izuno]

iTunes was really the only choice once I saw how easy it was to use the iPod. I think it is the combination of iPod + iTunes that is superior to most other solutions for [software] + [mobile mp3 device]. Now that iPod does video and games and you can get 30 or 60 or 80 whatever gigs of mobile storage, it's even betterer...rer.

[Pericolos0]

iTunes was really the only choice once I saw how easy it was to use the iPod. I think it is the combination of iPod + iTunes that is superior to most other solutions for [software] + [mobile mp3 device]. Now that iPod does video and games and you can get 30 or 60 or 80 whatever gigs of mobile storage, it's even betterer...rer.

you can put files on the ipod with winamp too , or you replace the ipod firmware with rockbox so it basically handles as a usb drive where you just put your files on, and use the rockbox file browser to play your music and generate playlists .. oh and it has loads of games, quite a few of them very good quality!

[Izuno]

iTunes was really the only choice once I saw how easy it was to use the iPod. I think it is the combination of iPod + iTunes that is superior to most other solutions for [software] + [mobile mp3 device]. Now that iPod does video and games and you can get 30 or 60 or 80 whatever gigs of mobile storage, it's even betterer...rer.

you can put files on the ipod with winamp too , or you replace the ipod firmware with rockbox so it basically handles as a usb drive where you just put your files on, and use the rockbox file browser to play your music and generate playlists .. oh and it has loads of games, quite a few of them very good quality!

cool...though i honestly don't want to mess with winamp except WMP just...blech it just blows.

Mojo, does iTunes 7 allow you to play DVDs in your drive? The thing I HATE about XP and WMP is that you can't play DVDs directly without a 3rd party DVD codec and etc etc....i'm sure savvy people have free hacks or whatever, but I installed a non free one and WMP still can't play DVDs...sheesh.