the german TV is fucked up

[von*ferret]

My girlfriend watches it religiously. She has had sex with me and one other person is as far as I'm concerned the farthest thing from someone being promiscious. Fletch hit it on the nail that its the parents' responsiblities, not a company or government to teach morality and ethics to their children. I for one would not let my children watch that. And I'd be furious if the government tried to step in and do the parenting instead of me.

[FrieChamp]

As for the responsibility of the media, I don't really think it's the state's duty to enforce morality into the media.

So for all you care TV, Radio, magazines could broadcast animal porn and manslaughter all day?

Fletch hit it on the nail that its the parents' responsiblities, not a company or government to teach morality and ethics to their children. I for one would not let my children watch that. And I'd be furious if the government tried to step in and do the parenting instead of me.

As the others who share the same opinion as you already said: You cannot survey 24/7 what your kids do. Well, I guess you can, but then you need the other parent to feed you and the kid, you can't sleep, kinda like how birds do it, one always guards the nest while...er I get carried away here.

Instead of controling the media, you control your children, who will at some point "see it, hear it" anyway! You are contradicting yourselves

I would rather enforce certain laws regarding content of shows and their airing time, than being a paranoid parent who watches the kid all day.

Yes at some point the kid will be exposed to sex, violence and other things, but I simply do not think that these are matters which should be in the mind of a 10 year old or younger. Call me conservative, but that's my opinion

[teeluu]

Steppenwolf, i agree with you. First i thought, what's so horrible if they show Sex and the city every day.. then i noticed 6pm. I like the show, but it's so true that there are way too harsh scenes for kids' eyes.

Odd that they're actually showing it on that time. They've been showing it on every workday for a while here in Finland, but it's like 10:30pm.

[Thrik]

Yes at some point the kid will be exposed to sex, violence and other things, but I simply do not think that these are matters which should be in the mind of a 10 year old or younger.

Were you aware of them at that age? If not, you're pretty damn special.

[FrieChamp]

Yes at some point the kid will be exposed to sex, violence and other things, but I simply do not think that these are matters which should be in the mind of a 10 year old or younger.

Were you aware of them at that age? If not, you're pretty damn special.

Umm make it 7 years old then or whatever, hell I don't even remember what I had for breakfast this morning how am I supposed to remember what age I was when I saw 2 people having sex the first time.

[RD]

This isnt about kids becoming aware of sex... that discussion was finished when Thrik opened his mouth. So instead read the topic a few more times.

Kids copy behaviour from TV and throw away their identity to become Sarah Jessica Parker. They are all brainwashed if they think she is hot.

Just look at what MTV did to our cities, all these rapper gangstas populating our streets. It is refreshing to see that Steppenwolf has the power to look thru all the fake bullshit that kids think they are these days.

[Steppenwolf]

As for the responsibility of the media, I don't really think it's the state's duty to enforce morality into the media. It always starts with good intentions and ends up being a slipperly slope to censorship and forced morality. The industry is best served when it self polices. But when the government gets involved to try to be everybody's parent, bad stuff always goes down. Morality gets politicized. Minority views gets squelched. It never ends well.

So yeah, if you don't like it don't watch it and don't let your kids watch it. If you want your range of influence to go any farther than that, send a letter to the TV station, complain to the broadcaster, or encourage your friends to boycott. But bitching fromt he sidelines doesn't help.

I have never said that the government should censor this. I complained about the idiocity of this TV channel.

And if you would have read my starting post: I actualy wrote a protest letter!

Just look at what MTV did to our cities, all these rapper gangstas populating our streets.

Thats a good example and damn true.

[Fletch]

If MTV or Sex in the City made people act like that, then video games and movies make people into killers.

I refuse to accept that line of logic. People have free will. They choose to behave how they want to behave. If they choose to behave like morons, that is on them and their parents for raising them like that.

[RD]

If MTV or Sex in the City made people act like that, then video games and movies make people into killers.

I refuse to accept that line of logic. People have free will. They choose to behave how they want to behave. If they choose to behave like morons, that is on them and their parents for raising them like that.

They choose to behave how they want, but the tv shows influence how ppl want to behave. Same thing with commercials. TV shows are giant commercials of lifestyle (not all of them ofcourse).

There is a diffrence between games and tv. Games are fake, tv is believably real. Nobody can convince even the dumbest kid that doom is real. But you watch tv for the purpose of escaping reality into a believable reality that you are fascinated by. I doubt there is a single person who has the lead farcry character as idol, but at the same time there are hundreds of millions who have Jlo as their great idol. Its because there is a humongous difference between polygons and flesh & blood.

[Steppenwolf]

Without TV most people in europe wouldn't even know that "nigga gangsta rappers" exist. With this in mind its very logical to believe that TV gave them the inspiration to act like that.

[Duff-e]

theres no right answer, there just has to be a balance. you cant have porn playing on day time public television just like you cant expect everyone to watch informational documentaries. it's a little common sense and a little preventative care.

[ginsengavenger]

Nobody can convince even the dumbest kid that doom is real.

If shooters didn't evoke something very real in people, do you think we would find them so compelling?

I for one hope there are programs like this on television when I have children so I never have to discuss sex with them myself

/dies

[Thrik]

They do sex education here when you're 9, so I think I'll be able to largely avoid that problem.

[Bic-B@ll]

i dont know if i can really form an opinion here as ive never actually seen the show, though i think its sort of inappropriate for little kids to watch, which means it would make sense to put it on at a later time. i also believe heavily that its the parents responsibility to control what their children do/watch/learn etc, however that doesnt mean that all parents accept this responsibility. most parents will be making dinner while the kid is in the living room watching whatever they want to watch. the most logical thing would be to put the show on at a later time, but thats up to the network.

[Pericolos0]

****** gangsta rappers have always existed, even if it was in a different form. Does anyone know that quote of that anient roman who said kids don't respect their elders anymore and how it used to be better etc? It would fit very well in this discussion...

It's just you becoming older and more alien to the youth .