I just can't f*cking believe it... [graphic content]

[D3ads]

I think the whole mentality with some of these people especially the kids is they are ignorant of a knife's power. I'm sure some of them carry the things because they think they could just quickly stab someone to hurt them but not actually kill them because it's 'not a gun'. Of course in reality it only takes one thrust in the wrong place and someone could bleed to death internally in minutes...

[mawibse]

So the plan to stop this shit from happening is to go scareface on them and put ganstas in concentration camps?

Great plan.

[JAL]

I would never carry a knife,

even for selfprotection.

Carrying weapons in public is just

stupid and unnecessary and can lead to

bad situations.

Randomly stabbing people on the street is fucked up.

I'd lock up the person in a mental institute/prison for life.

[Tequila]

Yeah, never carry a knife yourself cause that just makes the situation a whole lot worse.

And remember, the only good knife defense is your legs being used to run away. FAST.

[⌐■_■]

I fight to good to need knife, and I also agree with d3ads with the 'it's not a gun' mentallity but these guys where adult. Stabbing someone in the chest (heart area) is generally not meant to just wound somebody.

What's your suggestion Mawibse?

[RD]

So the plan to stop this shit from happening is to go scareface on them and put ganstas in concentration camps?

Great plan.

I can imagine if there was some guy that went scarface on these 2 kids before the stabbing it would be a great deed of goodness. Ofcourse the meatpuddle left behind by the chainsaw would possibly be worse than the actual stabbing, but yes it is the only solution to the problem

[Pericolos0]

showing them violence is wrong by using even worse violence?

[kleinluka]

Yeah, never carry a knife yourself cause that just makes the situation a whole lot worse.

And remember, the only good knife defense is your legs being used to run away. FAST.

or carry an unloaded gun. nobody has to know its not loaded. but if somebody pulls a knife on you, you just pull out the gun and aim. that should cause some distraction and maybe give you enough time to make a run for it.

[RD]

showing them violence is wrong by using even worse violence?

From mawibs' perspective it is :derp:

[Tequila]

Yeah, never carry a knife yourself cause that just makes the situation a whole lot worse.

And remember, the only good knife defense is your legs being used to run away. FAST.

or carry an unloaded gun. nobody has to know its not loaded. but if somebody pulls a knife on you, you just pull out the gun and aim. that should cause some distraction and maybe give you enough time to make a run for it.

Hah, that's just going to get you shot by the police.

And you're counting on a) having enough distance between the two of you so that the attacker doesn't panic upon seeing you draw a gun and REALLY do you in and b) even with enough difference, the attacker not calling your bluff.

Best just to practice your 100m sprints.

[Steppenwolf]

showing them violence is wrong by using even worse violence?

The pansie half assed crime prevention method of the western world doesn't work. It's visible in all so called free and democratic countrys.

Compare:

Crime in my town in communist times: ~500/year

Crime in my town now: over 6000/year (over 1000 alone violence against others)

That with a life standart that is even for the poor people higher then for average people in communist times.

The difference was that the government handled violent people as what they are (enemys of the society and country). Not many questions and endless trys to socialize and giving new chances. Violent people had exactly two chances. The second time they did go to prison immediately and when they came back they wished to never have to go back to there.

[Skjalg]

this shit is happening all over the place.

it's not like some signature campaign can stop it.

so there is nothing to do really, except to put on your bullet proof west and hope that no one hates you enough.

Jeg våknet en natt av en underlig drøm

det var som en stemme talte til meg

fjern som en underjordisk strøm-

og jeg reiste meg opp: Hva er det du vil meg?

- Du må ikke sove! Du må ikke sove.

Du må ikke tro at du bare har drømt

I går ble jeg dømt

I natt reiste de skafottet i gården

De henter meg klokken fem i morgen

Hele kjelleren her er full

og alle kaserner har kjeller ved kjeller

Vi ligger og venter i stenkalde celler

Vi ligger og råtner i mørke hull!

Vi vet ikke selv hva vi ligger og venter

og hvem der kan bli den neste de henter

Vi stønner vi skriker - men kan dere høre?

Kan dere absolutt ingen ting gjøre?

Ingen får se oss

Ingen får vite hva der skal skje oss

Ennu mer:

Ingen kan tro hva her daglig skjer

Du mener det kan ikke være sant

så onde kan da ikke mennesker være

Der fins da vel skikkelige folk i blant?

Bror, du har ennu meget å lære!

Man sa: Du skal gi ditt liv om det kreves

Og nu har vi gitt det - forgjeves, forgjeves

Verden har glemt oss! Vi er bedratt!

Du må ikke sove mer i natt!

Du må ikke gå til ditt kjøpmannskap

og tenke på hva der gir vinning og tap!

Du må ikke skylde på åker og fe

og at du har mer enn nok med det!

Du må ikke sitte trygt i ditt hjem

og si: Det er sørgelig, stakkars dem!

Du må ikke tåle så inderlig vel

den urett som ikke rammer deg selv!

Jeg roper med siste pust av min stemme

Du har ikke lov å gå der og glemme!

Tilgi dem ikke, de vet hva de gjør!

De puster på hatets og ondskapens glør!

De liker å drepe, de frydes ved jammer,

de ønsker å se vår verden i flammer!

De ønsker å drukne oss alle i blod!

Tror du det ikke? Du vet det jo!

Du vet jo at skolebarn er soldater

som stimer med sang over torg og gater

og oppglødd av mødrenes fromme svik

vil verge sitt land og gå i krig

Du kjenner det nedrige folke bedrag

med heltemot og med tro og ære-

du vet at en helt, det vil barnet være,

du vet han vil vifte med sabel og flagg!

Og så skal han ut i en skur av stål

og henge igjen i en piggtrådvase

og råtne for Hitlers ariske rase!

Du vet det er menneskets mening og mål!

Jeg skjønte det ikke. Nu er det for sent.

Min dom er rettferdig. Min straff er fortjent

Jeg trodde på fremgang, jeg trodde på fred

på arbeid, på samhold, på kjærlighet!

Men den som ikke vil dø i en flokk

får prøve alene, på bøddelens blokk!

Jeg roper i mørket- å, kunne du høre

Det er en eneste ting å gjøre:

Verg deg, men du har frie hender!

Frels dine barn! Europa brenner!

Jeg skaket av frost. Jeg fikk på meg klær

Ute var glitrende stjerne vær

Bare en ulmende stripe i øst

varslet det samme som drømmens røst:

Dagen bakenom jordens rand

steg med et skjær av blod og brann

steg med en angst så åndeløs

at det var som om selve stjernene frøs!

Jeg tenkte: Nu er det noe som hender.-

Vår tid er forbi - Europa brenner!

[D3ads]

Oh I forgot to mention that three people were stabbed in unrelated incidents over the weekend here. Nottingham is now officially the most violent city in England now as well...

[ginsengavenger]

insert joke about the Sheriff of Nottingham

/dies

[mawibse]

showing them violence is wrong by using even worse violence?

From mawibs' perspective it is :derp:

Nah voilence as means of punishment is great, no treehugging unnatural "youve been bad go stand in the corner" wuss shit.

I'm sure RD's dad agrees with me that he wouldnt have turned out as good if he hadn't smacked him around a little.

Hehe I love to say "this is gonna hurt me more then you" and then proceed to dish it out and pretend it's my love and not my vengence that gets satisfied.